Excellent low cost shotgun microphone? at DVinfo.net

Robert Castiglione · November 9th, 2005, 11:55 PM

Ok, after you throw away the microphone that comes with the HD 100 (and you will want to do this), you might be wondering what a good substitute would be for it?

I have just got the Rode NTG-1 and I have to say it is an excellent short shot gun for the very low cost. Very surprised. The low cost does not mean low quality. It is solidly built and the sound quality is excellent and not too far off, for example, a Sennheiser 416. In my view much better than say the ME 66 which has an awful off axis response (but good on axis response outside).

I was pleasantly surprised because I am not a particular fan of the NTG4/5.

Rob

Stephen L. Noe · November 10th, 2005, 12:13 AM

Hi,

What's the noise floor with that mic on camera and then off camera remotely?

Robert Castiglione · November 10th, 2005, 03:14 AM

One of the microphone's definite strong points is that there is no audible self noise. (I am listening right now through a Metric Halo ULN - 2). You can find the actual specs on the Rode site. It is a very quite microphone. No complaints there. Easily comparable in this regard to the top of the range short shot gun microphones.

On axis it has quite a warm sound.

I have just been testing it as against a Schoeps MK41 and a Senn. MKH40. OK those mics have the edge and of course you pay for that. In particular off axis response of the Schoeps is great, easily better than the Rode.

But I think that the point I am trying to make is that it is untenable to keep the mic that comes with the camera and if you are the sort of person that cares about your audio and you want to put a decent substitute microphone on your camera for a surprisingly low price this is certainly a good choice.

I would not be embarrassed to use this mic. on a boompole either.

Rob

Jemore Santos · November 10th, 2005, 04:43 AM

how much is low price?

Robert Castiglione · November 10th, 2005, 05:40 AM

I bought it here in Australia for $300.

Rob

Robert Jackson · March 1st, 2006, 11:51 PM

Know anywhere to get a nice, short mic cable to use with it that will still fit in the cable retainer on the body of the camera?

Jiri Bakala · March 2nd, 2006, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Jackson

Know anywhere to get a nice, short mic cable to use with it that will still fit in the cable retainer on the body of the camera?

It's just a basic XLR, anyone who can solder will be able to modify or make the cable for you. I modified the existing cable by replacing the straight XLR connector with a right angle to keep the overall profile of the camera narrow. I just found the stock cable sticking out a bit too much. I will do the same with another short cable for my Sennheiser ME66. The right angle XLR connector is around $5-6.

Robert Jackson · March 2nd, 2006, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiri Bakala

It's just a basic XLR, anyone who can solder will be able to modify or make the cable for you. I modified the existing cable by replacing the straight XLR connector with a right angle to keep the overall profile of the camera narrow. I just found the stock cable sticking out a bit too much. I will do the same with another short cable for my Sennheiser ME66. The right angle XLR connector is around $5-6.

My soldering skills suck. Heh...

You know, I'd really love a short cable with one of those Neutrik right-angle plugs, now that you mention it. If I could get it with cable that had a black braided cover I'd feel like James Bond. ;-)

Jiri Bakala · March 2nd, 2006, 08:56 AM

I hear ya Robert...

Can you find a pro audio supplier around you? They should be able to make you a smoking custom James Bond cable with right angle XLR for some $30.00 - and hey, they might even have a rainbow cable...:-)

Tim Dashwood · March 2nd, 2006, 09:09 AM

Is anyone opposed to me moving this thread into the "Now Hear This" forum so the audiophiles can join in?
The HD100 is inconsequential since a good shotgun will benefit any camera.

November 9th, 2005, 11:55 PM	#1
Robert Castiglione Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fremantle, Western Australia Posts: 253	Excellent low cost shotgun microphone? Ok, after you throw away the microphone that comes with the HD 100 (and you will want to do this), you might be wondering what a good substitute would be for it? I have just got the Rode NTG-1 and I have to say it is an excellent short shot gun for the very low cost. Very surprised. The low cost does not mean low quality. It is solidly built and the sound quality is excellent and not too far off, for example, a Sennheiser 416. In my view much better than say the ME 66 which has an awful off axis response (but good on axis response outside). I was pleasantly surprised because I am not a particular fan of the NTG4/5. Rob

November 10th, 2005, 04:43 AM	#4
Jemore Santos Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Tokyo/Sydney Posts: 297	how much? how much is low price?

March 2nd, 2006, 08:56 AM	#9
Jiri Bakala Major Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Kelowna BC Canada Posts: 706	I hear ya Robert... Can you find a pro audio supplier around you? They should be able to make you a smoking custom James Bond cable with right angle XLR for some $30.00 - and hey, they might even have a rainbow cable...:-) __________________ www.ascentfilms.com

March 2nd, 2006, 09:09 AM	#10
Tim Dashwood Wrangler Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Posts: 3,637	Is anyone opposed to me moving this thread into the "Now Hear This" forum so the audiophiles can join in? The HD100 is inconsequential since a good shotgun will benefit any camera. __________________ Tim Dashwood

November 10th, 2005, 12:13 AM	#2
Stephen L. Noe Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,214	Hi, What's the noise floor with that mic on camera and then off camera remotely?

November 10th, 2005, 03:14 AM	#3
Robert Castiglione Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fremantle, Western Australia Posts: 253	One of the microphone's definite strong points is that there is no audible self noise. (I am listening right now through a Metric Halo ULN - 2). You can find the actual specs on the Rode site. It is a very quite microphone. No complaints there. Easily comparable in this regard to the top of the range short shot gun microphones. On axis it has quite a warm sound. I have just been testing it as against a Schoeps MK41 and a Senn. MKH40. OK those mics have the edge and of course you pay for that. In particular off axis response of the Schoeps is great, easily better than the Rode. But I think that the point I am trying to make is that it is untenable to keep the mic that comes with the camera and if you are the sort of person that cares about your audio and you want to put a decent substitute microphone on your camera for a surprisingly low price this is certainly a good choice. I would not be embarrassed to use this mic. on a boompole either. Rob

November 10th, 2005, 05:40 AM	#5
Robert Castiglione Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fremantle, Western Australia Posts: 253	I bought it here in Australia for $300. Rob

March 1st, 2006, 11:51 PM	#6
Robert Jackson Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Santa Rosa, CA Posts: 390	Know anywhere to get a nice, short mic cable to use with it that will still fit in the cable retainer on the body of the camera?