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Old April 10th, 2022, 11:03 AM   #1
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Z280 Proxy file, audio is distorted

Hi all, I just used my Z280 for the first time yesterday at a wedding and decided to also record proxy files as well.

The picture and audio from my SXS cards were perfect but noticed when I brought the proxy files into the timeline, the audio from the proxy files are distorted, wonder why?

Proxy setting was 1920x1080 9 Mbps Audio was CH1/CH2.

Any thoughts.Thanks.
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Old April 11th, 2022, 09:31 AM   #2
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Re: Z280 Proxy file, audio is distorted

The codec could be the problem. Post the file's MediaInfo so we may see the file's pertinent attributes.
If you do not have MediaInfo already: https://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo

Or post a file in Dropbox, We Transfer, GoogleDrive, or other cloud site.
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Old April 11th, 2022, 09:51 AM   #3
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The codec could be the problem. Post the file's MediaInfo so we may see the file's pertinent attributes.
If you do not have MediaInfo already: https://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo

Or post a file in Dropbox, We Transfer, GoogleDrive, or other cloud site.
OK Rick, link sent :) Hopefully is what you need.

Last edited by Anthony McErlean; April 11th, 2022 at 10:27 AM.
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Old April 11th, 2022, 11:05 AM   #4
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Re: Z280 Proxy file, audio is distorted

Hi Anthony, the file does not sound like a good recording to begin with.. (mic placement and such), but the file's attributes and waveform look OK (not clipped or other tell-tale visual observation). If you can post the non-proxy audio file, I can compare.
Your player may not have the same AC3 codec as the cam (or whatever) it was encoded by. Try converting it to a garden variety PCM file <.wav>. There is an online transcoder ink below if you cannot transcode on your computer.
https://convertio.co/audio-converter/

in any case here are the file's attributes
General
Complete name : C:\Users\Rick\Downloads\dISTORTED SOUND.ac3
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name : Dolby Digital
File size : 288 KiB
Duration : 9 s 216 ms
Overall bit rate mode : Constant
Overall bit rate : 256 kb/s

Audio
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name : Dolby Digital
Duration : 9 s 216 ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 256 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 288 KiB (100%)
Service kind : Complete Main
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Old April 11th, 2022, 11:06 AM   #5
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Re: Z280 Proxy file, audio is distorted

https://www.dvinfo.net/forum/attachm...1&d=1649695874

Thats a screen shot of the original file Rick

OK Rick, I will send a few seconds of the original, thanks.

SENT ....
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Old April 12th, 2022, 11:02 AM   #6
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Re: Z280 Proxy file, audio is distorted

Hi Anthony,
The 'original' file does sound better, but it not the same segment.
Is AC3 the audio format that the camera encoded, or is it just the format you exported as? The attributes of the files you posted are basically the same..

> dISTORTED SOUND.ac3
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name : Dolby Digital
Duration : 9 s 216 ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 256 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 288 KiB (100%)
Service kind : Complete Main
================================
> Original sound from timeline exported as AC-3.ac3
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name : Dolby Digital
Duration : 17 s 312 ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 256 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 541 KiB (100%)
Service kind : Complete Main

In any case, you could use the original audio tracks with the proxy video file. Most NLEs support adding and/or replacing files and timeline clips.
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Old April 12th, 2022, 11:46 AM   #7
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Hi Anthony,

Is AC3 the audio format that the camera encoded, or is it just the format you exported as? The attributes of the files you posted are basically the same..
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Yes, I exported from the timeline as AC3

I should have sent you the same segment, my bad :)

I don't understand why the proxy sound is so bad.

Thank you Rick for taking the time, very kind of you.
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Old April 12th, 2022, 12:10 PM   #8
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Run MediaInfo, and post the attributes of the original and proxy files from the camera. Your exported files do not reveal a cause.
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Old April 12th, 2022, 01:41 PM   #9
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Ok, will do. Thanks.
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Old April 13th, 2022, 08:49 AM   #10
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Hi Rick Proxy file

General
Complete name : E:\2022\PROXY CARD\Clip\365_0540S03.MP4
Format : XAVC
Codec ID : XAVC (XAVC/mp42/iso2)
File size : 1.65 GiB
Duration : 25 min 25 s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 9 262 kb/s
Encoded date : UTC 2022-04-09 15:53:15
Tagged date : UTC 2022-04-09 15:53:15

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Main@L4.1
Format settings : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames : 2 frames
Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=8
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 25 min 25 s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 8 703 kb/s
Maximum bit rate : 16.0 Mb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 50.000 FPS
Original frame rate : 25.000 FPS
Standard : PAL
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan type, store method : Separated fields
Scan order : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.084
Stream size : 1.55 GiB (94%)
Encoded date : UTC 2022-04-09 15:53:15
Tagged date : UTC 2022-04-09 15:53:15
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
Metas : 4
Codec configuration box : avcC

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC LC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID : mp4a-40-2
Duration : 25 min 25 s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 128 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 23.3 MiB (1%)
Encoded date : UTC 2022-04-09 15:53:15
Tagged date : UTC 2022-04-09 15:53:15

Other
ID : 3
Type : Time code
Format : QuickTime TC
Duration : 25 min 25 s
Frame rate : 50.000 FPS
Time code of first frame : 05:53:26:15
Time code of last frame : 06:18:52:09
Time code, striped : Yes
Encoded date : UTC 2022-04-09 15:53:15
Tagged date : UTC 2022-04-09 15:53:15
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Old April 13th, 2022, 08:52 AM   #11
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Original

General
Complete name : E:\2022\XQD 1\XDROOT\Clip\365_0540.MXF
Format : MXF
Format version : 1.3
Format profile : OP-1a
Format settings : Closed / Complete
File size : 6.66 GiB
Duration : 25 min 25 s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 37.5 Mb/s
Encoded date : 2022-04-09 15:53:15.000
Writing application : Sony Mem 2.00

Video
ID : 2
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High 4:2:2@L4.1
Format settings : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames : 2 frames
Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=12
Format settings, wrapping mode : Frame
Codec ID : 0D01030102106001-0401020201316001
Duration : 25 min 25 s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 32.9 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate : 35.0 Mb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 25.000 FPS
Standard : PAL
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:2
Bit depth : 10 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan type, store method : Separated fields
Scan order : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.634
Stream size : 5.84 GiB (88%)
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709

Audio #1
ID : 3
Format : PCM
Format settings : Little
Format settings, wrapping mode : Frame (AES)
Codec ID : 0D01030102060300-0402020101000000
Duration : 25 min 25 s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 152 kb/s
Channel(s) : 1 channel
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 25.000 FPS (1920 SPF)
Bit depth : 24 bits
Stream size : 210 MiB (3%)
Locked : Yes

Audio #2
ID : 4
Format : PCM
Format settings : Little
Format settings, wrapping mode : Frame (AES)
Codec ID : 0D01030102060300-0402020101000000
Duration : 25 min 25 s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 152 kb/s
Channel(s) : 1 channel
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 25.000 FPS (1920 SPF)
Bit depth : 24 bits
Stream size : 210 MiB (3%)
Locked : Yes

Audio #3
ID : 5
Format : PCM
Format settings : Little
Format settings, wrapping mode : Frame (AES)
Codec ID : 0D01030102060300-0402020101000000
Duration : 25 min 25 s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 152 kb/s
Channel(s) : 1 channel
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 25.000 FPS (1920 SPF)
Bit depth : 24 bits
Stream size : 210 MiB (3%)
Locked : Yes

Audio #4
ID : 6
Format : PCM
Format settings : Little
Format settings, wrapping mode : Frame (AES)
Codec ID : 0D01030102060300-0402020101000000
Duration : 25 min 25 s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 152 kb/s
Channel(s) : 1 channel
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 25.000 FPS (1920 SPF)
Bit depth : 24 bits
Stream size : 210 MiB (3%)
Locked : Yes

Other #1
ID : 1-Material
Type : Time code
Format : MXF TC
Frame rate : 25.000 FPS
Time code of first frame : 05:53:26:15
Time code of last frame : 06:18:52:09
Time code settings : Material Package
Time code, striped : Yes

Other #2
ID : 1-Source
Type : Time code
Format : MXF TC
Frame rate : 25.000 FPS
Time code of first frame : 05:53:26:15
Time code of last frame : 06:18:52:09
Time code settings : Source Package
Time code, striped : Yes

Other #3
ID : 7
Format : Acquisition Metadata
Muxing mode : Ancillary data / RDD 18
Frame rate : 25.000 FPS
CaptureGammaEquation_FirstFrame : HG4609G33
IrisFNumber_FirstFrame : 2.258770
FocusPositionFromImagePlane_FirstFrame : 1.217 m
MacroSetting_FirstFrame : Off
LensZoom35mmStillCameraEquivalent_FirstF : 39.500 mm
LensZoomActualFocalLength_FirstFrame : 7.390 mm
FocusRingPosition_FirstFrame : 53.1418%
ZoomRingPosition_FirstFrame : 11.5341%
AutoExposureMode_FirstFrame : Manual
AutoFocusSensingAreaSetting_FirstFrame : Full Screen Sensing Auto
NeutralDensityFilterWheelSetting_FirstFr : Clear
ImageSensorDimensionEffectiveWidth_First : 6.950 mm
ImageSensorDimensionEffectiveHeight_Firs : 3.909 mm
CaptureFrameRate_FirstFrame : 25.000 fps
ImageSensorReadoutMode_FirstFrame : Interlaced field
ShutterSpeed_Angle_FirstFrame : 360.0°
ShutterSpeed_Time_FirstFrame : 1/50 s
CameraMasterGainAdjustment_FirstFrame : 652.36 dB
ElectricalExtenderMagnification_FirstFra : 100%
AutoWhiteBalanceMode_FirstFrame : Preset
WhiteBalance_FirstFrame : 3608 K
CameraMasterBlackLevel_FirstFrame : 2.0%

Other #4
ID : 7
Format : 53-01
Duration : 25 min 25 s
Frame rate : 25.000 FPS

Other #5
Type : Time code
Format : SMPTE TC
Muxing mode : SDTI
Frame rate : 25.000 FPS
Time code of first frame : 05:53:26:15
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