I'm fuming - all my music pulled on the internet! at DVinfo.net

Paul R Johnson · February 11th, 2021, 03:46 PM

I've got lots of music available on YouTube, iTunes, Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon and lots of other outlets and yesterday - the entire lot got removed. All originals or properly licensed covers and nothing dodgy whatsoever. Distrokid, my aggregator just instructed every outlet to remove them and most complied immediately. I'd even got money in the bank account I'd not withdrawn and that has been zero'd too.

Absolutely nothing I can do - I'm waiting for a response - promised within 3 days. All the likes and playlist entries, comments and everything vanished. Even worse - royalties due have vanished. The Youtube videos had my name but were put there by the record company - and today I added the titles to my own YouTube video account. within minutes I had copyright notices saying any monetisation from the video would go to the rights holder who is .......... Paul Johnson, via Distrokid - so they pulled my music but are still collecting the revenue. Total farce - and nothing whatsoever I can do about it!

Josh Bass · February 11th, 2021, 05:19 PM

That's awful! Hopefully it gets righted.

Greg Miller · February 11th, 2021, 07:41 PM

I'm really sorry to hear that, Paul. I don't understand the distribution business, but from your description what happened to you (if intentional) sounds unconscionable. At the very least, I hope it was an honest accident or a system glitch, and not anything stemming from malicious intent. Good luck getting it straightened out.

Pete Cofrancesco · February 11th, 2021, 07:47 PM

Even though I don't fully comprehend what happened sounds upsetting but should get rectified since you're obviously in the right.

Funny thing I was just reading a streaming article which said even famous dj and musicians have to be careful streaming their own music on mainstream services because it will be flagged and taken down. Someone else posted an article how the police are taking advantage of the same automated copyright scanning.

Allan Black · February 12th, 2021, 03:31 AM

Sorry to read that Paul. If it happened to you, it’s happening to others and this’ll discourage people from using their services. Let’s know any further developments.

Google is very upset here, the news papers want to charge them and others for using their news items on line. Google has threatened to close their operation in 0z.

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Andrew Smith · February 12th, 2021, 03:55 AM

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Google has threatened to close their operation in 0z.

Not only are we calling their obvious bluff, Microsoft have been angling to take over as the search engine of Australia if there were to be such a thing.

Not a fun time for Google, and I have zero sympathy for them, especially as they at YouTube just summarily deleted the account + channel for LifeSiteNews such that all their news reporting/interview videos and 302k subscribers are now effectively evaporated. No legit reason given, and when you're the gorilla sized bully of the video platforms you simply don't have to.

This is a good example of why you have backups of all your video content, and indeed LSN had done this with their channel now on Rumble which from what I can guess is being repopulated with the most recent content first. I'd personally recommend to people that they actively maintain parallel postings on other platforms in addition to what you might be doing on YouTube. It's just not worth the risk.

Andrew

Paul R Johnson · February 12th, 2021, 12:36 PM

Still no luck or progress so far - but I've been working hard putting the music on my own account on Youtube as I mentioned. The flagging of met own music is actually OK, because it does prove their ID system does work - although in the past I had Sony claim one of my recordings as their own - and put in a counter claim which I think I won? I've kept screen shots of some sites using my music so I can prove the numbers if I have to.

What annoys me is that I don't artificially inflate the numbers, I don't pay the firms who use bots to generate loads of plays. I make sure all my stuff has the proper licences, I make sure I identify the original composers or writers on PRS and PPL and even make sure the album art is all my own - nothing at all gleaned from internet sources, and make sure the gizmos I use to make it are all legit and licences - You could not be more legit than how I've done it and that makes it worse - not like so much you see and hear that is dodgy in the extreme.

I'll just have to wait and see it through - but legally I think I am sunk as it's all US companies and not much a Brit can do against the biggest aggregator in the world! I'd like too think it's a computer issue with their database? Maybe? Possibly?

February 11th, 2021, 03:46 PM	#1
Paul R Johnson Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lowestoft - UK Posts: 4,045	I'm fuming - all my music pulled on the internet! I've got lots of music available on YouTube, iTunes, Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon and lots of other outlets and yesterday - the entire lot got removed. All originals or properly licensed covers and nothing dodgy whatsoever. Distrokid, my aggregator just instructed every outlet to remove them and most complied immediately. I'd even got money in the bank account I'd not withdrawn and that has been zero'd too. Absolutely nothing I can do - I'm waiting for a response - promised within 3 days. All the likes and playlist entries, comments and everything vanished. Even worse - royalties due have vanished. The Youtube videos had my name but were put there by the record company - and today I added the titles to my own YouTube video account. within minutes I had copyright notices saying any monetisation from the video would go to the rights holder who is .......... Paul Johnson, via Distrokid - so they pulled my music but are still collecting the revenue. Total farce - and nothing whatsoever I can do about it!

February 11th, 2021, 05:19 PM	#2
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Re: I'm fuming - all my music pulled on the internet! That's awful! Hopefully it gets righted. __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

February 11th, 2021, 07:41 PM	#3
Greg Miller Trustee Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,791	Re: I'm fuming - all my music pulled on the internet! I'm really sorry to hear that, Paul. I don't understand the distribution business, but from your description what happened to you (if intentional) sounds unconscionable. At the very least, I hope it was an honest accident or a system glitch, and not anything stemming from malicious intent. Good luck getting it straightened out.

February 11th, 2021, 07:47 PM	#4
Pete Cofrancesco Inner Circle Join Date: May 2004 Location: USA Posts: 3,005	Re: I'm fuming - all my music pulled on the internet! Even though I don't fully comprehend what happened sounds upsetting but should get rectified since you're obviously in the right. Funny thing I was just reading a streaming article which said even famous dj and musicians have to be careful streaming their own music on mainstream services because it will be flagged and taken down. Someone else posted an article how the police are taking advantage of the same automated copyright scanning.

February 12th, 2021, 03:31 AM	#5
Allan Black Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sydney. Posts: 2,931	Re: I'm fuming - all my music pulled on the internet! Sorry to read that Paul. If it happened to you, it’s happening to others and this’ll discourage people from using their services. Let’s know any further developments. Google is very upset here, the news papers want to charge them and others for using their news items on line. Google has threatened to close their operation in 0z. 🆎 __________________ Drink more tap water. On admission at Sydney hospitals more than 5% of day patients are de-hydrated.

February 12th, 2021, 12:36 PM	#7
Paul R Johnson Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lowestoft - UK Posts: 4,045	Re: I'm fuming - all my music pulled on the internet! Still no luck or progress so far - but I've been working hard putting the music on my own account on Youtube as I mentioned. The flagging of met own music is actually OK, because it does prove their ID system does work - although in the past I had Sony claim one of my recordings as their own - and put in a counter claim which I think I won? I've kept screen shots of some sites using my music so I can prove the numbers if I have to. What annoys me is that I don't artificially inflate the numbers, I don't pay the firms who use bots to generate loads of plays. I make sure all my stuff has the proper licences, I make sure I identify the original composers or writers on PRS and PPL and even make sure the album art is all my own - nothing at all gleaned from internet sources, and make sure the gizmos I use to make it are all legit and licences - You could not be more legit than how I've done it and that makes it worse - not like so much you see and hear that is dodgy in the extreme. I'll just have to wait and see it through - but legally I think I am sunk as it's all US companies and not much a Brit can do against the biggest aggregator in the world! I'd like too think it's a computer issue with their database? Maybe? Possibly?