G2/3 to Android at DVinfo.net

Rick Reineke · November 18th, 2016, 09:15 AM

H E L P ?
Get sound to an Android smart phone > via G2/3
According to the pin out which states: > [mic] shield hot (+); R1 cold/shield ; headphones; rings: 3 & 4
I wash to feed unbalanced mic or -10dB level.... and is there any metering or indication of inputs levels?
Settings within the phone itself ? Live Facebook I think ??
H E L P ?

_ yes.. I already know how I will mix/compress it, so no other non-technical subjective comments are necessary
Thanks, Rick

PS:
if this comes together I will post the band's Facebook URL. A well-know NYC cover band w/ high-end guests,

Jay Massengill · November 18th, 2016, 10:22 AM

If using a portable receiver, I would combine a standard locking mini TRS to XLR male cable available for Sennheiser transmitter outputs, with a standard XLR female to smartphone mini TRRS with headphone output jack cable.

Something like these two:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/con...=REG&A=details

and

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...d_TRRS_to.html

or this one without the headphone output:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...0i_xlr_to.html

Is there any difference in Android and iPhone TRRS jacks?

Of course if using a base station receiver with an XLR output you'd only need a regular XLR female to male and one of the latter cables.

If using a base station receiver and the XLR output is already being used, a 1/4-inch output cable and a DI box could be used to gain a second XLR output and possibly solve any grounding issues with its ground lift switch.

Rick Reineke · November 20th, 2016, 09:33 AM

Thanks Jay, I found some Android wiring schematics here.
Android device external mic wiring |
I'll just start soldering and see which one works best. I want to keep it as light weight as possible for the operator. I'll use a G3 portable receiver with a belt clip and a 3 or 4 ft. cable going to the phone's 3.5mm TRRS i/o connection.
Seems strange the common ground is ring terminal 2 and not the usual barrel/sleeve.
If this doesn't work I'll have to make of get the XLR adapter.

Seth Bloombaum · November 20th, 2016, 10:38 AM

I've just started testing Filmic Pro, it's video camera software for iOS devices. Among other things, it offers manual control of audio recording level (and manual WB, shutter, gain, aperture, etc). It will also switch between internal and external sources.

I think it's available for Android as well. Not what you're looking for - unless you want reference video with your audio recordings.

But, it opened my eyes to the possibilities of app software that fully controls what I'd thought to be automatic-only functions of mobile platforms.

Have you sourced audio recording software that gives you manual levels and some kind of metering?

Rick Reineke · November 20th, 2016, 11:20 AM

Thanks, I'll recommend Filmic Pro to the.. 'shooter'. It's for live streaming on Facebook. I'm the band's FOH mixer and have my hands full mixing mains & monitors already. I suggested an off-the-board mix as I'm sure the smart phone's internal mic is a POS and the operator moves around the venue so the sound is inconsistent.

November 18th, 2016, 09:15 AM	#1
Rick Reineke Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: New York Posts: 2,039	G2/3 to Android H E L P ? Get sound to an Android smart phone > via G2/3 According to the pin out which states: > [mic] shield hot (+); R1 cold/shield ; headphones; rings: 3 & 4 I wash to feed unbalanced mic or -10dB level.... and is there any metering or indication of inputs levels? Settings within the phone itself ? Live Facebook I think ?? H E L P ? _ yes.. I already know how I will mix/compress it, so no other non-technical subjective comments are necessary Thanks, Rick PS: if this comes together I will post the band's Facebook URL. A well-know NYC cover band w/ high-end guests,

November 18th, 2016, 10:22 AM	#2
Jay Massengill Trustee Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Burlington Posts: 1,976	Re: G2/3 to Android If using a portable receiver, I would combine a standard locking mini TRS to XLR male cable available for Sennheiser transmitter outputs, with a standard XLR female to smartphone mini TRRS with headphone output jack cable. Something like these two: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/con...=REG&A=details and https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...d_TRRS_to.html or this one without the headphone output: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...0i_xlr_to.html Is there any difference in Android and iPhone TRRS jacks? Of course if using a base station receiver with an XLR output you'd only need a regular XLR female to male and one of the latter cables. If using a base station receiver and the XLR output is already being used, a 1/4-inch output cable and a DI box could be used to gain a second XLR output and possibly solve any grounding issues with its ground lift switch.

November 20th, 2016, 09:33 AM	#3
Rick Reineke Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: New York Posts: 2,039	Re: G2/3 to Android Thanks Jay, I found some Android wiring schematics here. Android device external mic wiring \| I'll just start soldering and see which one works best. I want to keep it as light weight as possible for the operator. I'll use a G3 portable receiver with a belt clip and a 3 or 4 ft. cable going to the phone's 3.5mm TRRS i/o connection. Seems strange the common ground is ring terminal 2 and not the usual barrel/sleeve. If this doesn't work I'll have to make of get the XLR adapter.

November 20th, 2016, 10:38 AM	#4
Seth Bloombaum Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,420	Re: G2/3 to Android I've just started testing Filmic Pro, it's video camera software for iOS devices. Among other things, it offers manual control of audio recording level (and manual WB, shutter, gain, aperture, etc). It will also switch between internal and external sources. I think it's available for Android as well. Not what you're looking for - unless you want reference video with your audio recordings. But, it opened my eyes to the possibilities of app software that fully controls what I'd thought to be automatic-only functions of mobile platforms. Have you sourced audio recording software that gives you manual levels and some kind of metering? __________________ 30 years of pro media production. Vegas user since 1.0. Webcaster since 1997. Freelancer since 2000. College instructor since 2001.

November 20th, 2016, 11:20 AM	#5
Rick Reineke Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: New York Posts: 2,039	Re: G2/3 to Android Thanks, I'll recommend Filmic Pro to the.. 'shooter'. It's for live streaming on Facebook. I'm the band's FOH mixer and have my hands full mixing mains & monitors already. I suggested an off-the-board mix as I'm sure the smart phone's internal mic is a POS and the operator moves around the venue so the sound is inconsistent.