How It's Made - Condenser and Ribbon Microphones at DVinfo.net
DV Info Net

Go Back   DV Info Net > The Tools of DV and HD Production > All Things Audio
Register FAQ Today's Posts Buyer's Guides

All Things Audio
Everything Audio, from acquisition to postproduction.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old October 24th, 2015, 07:46 PM   #1
Trustee
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 1,238
How It's Made - Condenser and Ribbon Microphones

It is sometimes helpful (and at least interesting) to know how they make the microphones we use...

Neumann U87 condenser mic:
AEA (RCA) 44 ribbon mic:
Richard Crowley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 24th, 2015, 11:02 PM   #2
Trustee
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 1,792
Re: How It's Made - Condenser and Ribbon Microphones

How ironic that these videos about microphones have obviously distorted narration. The ribbon mic video also seems to have some bad background hum ... at least at the beginning before the music track starts.
Greg Miller is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 25th, 2015, 02:42 AM   #3
Trustee
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Cornsay Durham UK
Posts: 1,992
Re: How It's Made - Condenser and Ribbon Microphones

Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg Miller View Post
How ironic that these videos about microphones have obviously distorted narration. The ribbon mic video also seems to have some bad background hum ... at least at the beginning before the music track starts.
Ha ha must have been shot with a rode mic into a DSLR! ;0)
__________________
Over 15 minutes in Broadcast Film and TV production: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1044352/
Gary Nattrass is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 25th, 2015, 05:17 PM   #4
Equal Opportunity Offender
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 3,066
Re: How It's Made - Condenser and Ribbon Microphones

Any mic going straight in to a DSLR can give you less that premium results.

Andrew
Andrew Smith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 25th, 2015, 08:10 PM   #5
Trustee
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Novato, CA
Posts: 1,774
Re: How It's Made - Condenser and Ribbon Microphones

I would love to have a U87. Such a great sounding mic.

And that AEA 44 is huge.
__________________
Garrett Low
www.GLowMediaProductions.com
Garrett Low is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 26th, 2015, 01:47 PM   #6
Trustee
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Cornsay Durham UK
Posts: 1,992
Re: How It's Made - Condenser and Ribbon Microphones

Quote:
Originally Posted by Garrett Low View Post
I would love to have a U87. Such a great sounding mic.

And that AEA 44 is huge.
Funny enough is that the U87 does not tend to have a particular sound and what you usually hear is due to the EQ and compression applied which can be quite drastic on older music recordings, I recall max gain at 10k was the norm in the 70's! ;0)
__________________
Over 15 minutes in Broadcast Film and TV production: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1044352/
Gary Nattrass is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 26th, 2015, 03:04 PM   #7
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Camas, WA, USA
Posts: 5,513
Re: How It's Made - Condenser and Ribbon Microphones

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary Nattrass View Post
Funny enough is that the U87 does not tend to have a particular sound and what you usually hear is due to the EQ and compression applied which can be quite drastic on older music recordings, I recall max gain at 10k was the norm in the 70's! ;0)
We'll said!

So often, people search for that mic that gives just the right sound, yet the sound they want to achieve is done with processing - and with a great room (and performer). It's like searching for a lens that will deliver The Matrix look when it's really about art direction, lighting, and grading.

But like Garrett, I'd also love to have a U87. Nothing like starting with a nice clean signal. Owning a classic doesn't hurt either. :)
__________________
Jon Fairhurst
Jon Fairhurst is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 26th, 2015, 04:34 PM   #8
Trustee
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Novato, CA
Posts: 1,774
Re: How It's Made - Condenser and Ribbon Microphones

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary Nattrass View Post
Funny enough is that the U87 does not tend to have a particular sound and what you usually hear is due to the EQ and compression applied which can be quite drastic on older music recordings, I recall max gain at 10k was the norm in the 70's! ;0)
That is perhaps why I love this mic so much. To my ear is is a very uncolored mic. It also picks up a lot of the nuances that other mics seem to miss.
__________________
Garrett Low
www.GLowMediaProductions.com
Garrett Low is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 27th, 2015, 02:21 PM   #9
Trustee
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Cornsay Durham UK
Posts: 1,992
Re: How It's Made - Condenser and Ribbon Microphones

I have used U87's for most of my professional career but must admit that the Rode NT2000 I own for my home studio is a very good mic and sounds pretty close to me!

Always been a fan of ribbon mic's but shudder that we threw in the trash all the old coles 4033 and 4038 mic's we had in 1980 as they were not visually acceptable for TV anymore! ;0(
__________________
Over 15 minutes in Broadcast Film and TV production: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1044352/
Gary Nattrass is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 27th, 2015, 03:09 PM   #10
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: New York
Posts: 2,039
Re: How It's Made - Condenser and Ribbon Microphones

A RCA employee/relative of mine (RIP) recalled throwing away boxes full of RCA 77DX and 44s when GE took over NBC in NY. Wish I was around then and knew what was what.
Rick Reineke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 27th, 2015, 03:16 PM   #11
Trustee
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Cornsay Durham UK
Posts: 1,992
Re: How It's Made - Condenser and Ribbon Microphones

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick Reineke View Post
A RCA employee/relative of mine (RIP) recalled throwing away boxes full of RCA 77DX and 44s when GE took over NBC in NY. Wish I was around then and knew what was what.
Such a shame and waste.

Sadly most of the AMS Neve digital consoles that were shipped when I worked for them have ended up in the trash too!
__________________
Over 15 minutes in Broadcast Film and TV production: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1044352/
Gary Nattrass is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 30th, 2015, 06:39 PM   #12
Trustee
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Cornsay Durham UK
Posts: 1,992
Re: How It's Made - Condenser and Ribbon Microphones

Have a listen to Jeff Lynns new single when I was a boy to hear classic how to deal with a U87 for vocals that totally suits the music genre!

THEN listen what it sounds like on FM radio FAB!
__________________
Over 15 minutes in Broadcast Film and TV production: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1044352/
Gary Nattrass is offline   Reply
Reply

DV Info Net refers all where-to-buy and where-to-rent questions exclusively to these trusted full line dealers and rental houses...

B&H Photo Video
(866) 521-7381
New York, NY USA

Scan Computers Int. Ltd.
+44 0871-472-4747
Bolton, Lancashire UK


DV Info Net also encourages you to support local businesses and buy from an authorized dealer in your neighborhood.
  You are here: DV Info Net > The Tools of DV and HD Production > All Things Audio


 



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:04 PM.


DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2024 The Digital Video Information Network