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September 10th, 2015, 08:58 PM | #106 |
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Re: Urgent Help: Advice Recording a Choir (16 Members) in a Cathedral 9 Second Echo
Thanks much - congratulations!
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Yes, congratulations on a successful production! Best of luck with the edit and the final result!
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Thanks everyone. I got all the footage loaded last night. Three solid angles and the GoPro with a few mistakes with how I framed it. Should be pretty cool... Just need to wait for the mix! :)
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did the mics get in the way much?
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September 11th, 2015, 10:42 AM | #110 |
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We had the two main mics in shot in the middle, but they kinda looked epic. I liked them there tbh. Then because the AX100 was centre and shooting over the conductor, I didn't have any mics in the shot. Following this, I had the low camera for interest on a slider - but some of the mics stands blocked faces on this shot. Then the GH4 to the right had a couple of faces missing due to the mics in the middle - but I couldn't really get my tripod any higher and still operate it. I think if I were able to get onto a higher platform, it would have looked better, but then I wouldn't have been able to check on it either...
I look forward to hearing people's comments for this reason though, as I may be pleased with something that you dislike, and then I can learn more from that... |
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Congratulations Craig! You say there is already things you would do different..... I have been doing this well over twenty years. I do not think I have EVER done a multi cam shoot when I did not see something in post I could have done better. Learning is a never ending process. I have worked with guys that think they know it all, I am not one of them.
I am looking forward to seeing the film. Steve
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The one place where I have "wheeled and dealed" is lenses. I started off with, well, the wrong lens for my needs. I then got a Nikon lens to EF mount adapter and had an extended loan of some old Nikon primes. I then sold my wrong lens and got a series of Canon EF primes. From there, I sold something like six standard primes and upgraded to three L lenses. Now that I have my "keepers", I've slowed down. Except that Canon now seems to be releasing superior updates to my Ls. Hmmm...
Mics are a different story. Like lenses, they hold their value, but I tend to keep what I have. Electronics lose value so sharply that the buy-sell model doesn't work nearly as well. But back on topic, I'm looking forward to seeing and hearing the choir and learning more about the story...
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September 16th, 2015, 04:25 PM | #115 |
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A special thank you to everyone who was able to help me. I am extremely lucky to have found this board, and extremely pleased to be able to share what I hope will be a reasonably well-received recording of a live song. The audio engineer did a great job (from what I can tell) with the mix, and most things that I was hoping would work out reasonably well, did. However, there are a few things that I found frustrating. E.g. one of the sides of the hall was yellow to a point of being out of sync with the overall feel / colour. Therefore, I've toned down the yellow and added blue, but I think this shows a little too much in one of the shots - much better than how it was though. Also, I didn't realise the extent to how wide the GoPro would be, even with a person being directly in front of it... so there's an unfortunate 'selfie' of me in the film as well; but I felt that the shots were too important to leave out, as the piece is to showcase the client's talents as a conductor.
Hope you all think it's worthy: Thanks again! Craig P.s. The second song will follow at the weekend. |
September 16th, 2015, 04:44 PM | #116 |
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Great job. They should be very proud of their production.
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September 17th, 2015, 01:27 PM | #117 |
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Very nice job - congratulations!
By the way, do you know what mics were used? Reverb works very very well - makes it feel natural for the surrounfings |
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Nicely done! Good on ya.
And you weren't kidding about the long trail in that hall. But I'm sorta doubting the 9 seconds. I'm thinking the T60 time is more like 5-6 seconds. Still very long, but more manageable. Interesting how your audio guy decided he needed to be quite close, in front of the director. And low. But... he was right. All you have to do is listen to it. So... what are the details on the micing? I think I can tell by looking and listening, but it's always nice to know for sure. You should be a happy guy, and your client should be equally happy. If they wanted a promo that shows what they can do, they surely got it. (And I did like the ceiling shot ;-) |
September 17th, 2015, 07:50 PM | #119 |
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Yeah - the reverb doesn't sound anywhere near as bad as I would have thought. On the other hand looking at the interior space it's clear that they knew what they were doing acoustically re materials and structural details when they designed the space.
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September 18th, 2015, 09:56 AM | #120 |
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Impressive on many fronts. In a way, a more tricky space with the very flat and open floor - so probably why the low mic position worked well as the audio guy also recognised the benefit of M/S by the looks of it, to give a bit of after recording adjustment. The piece was ideal for the space.
How did the actual recordings go? How many takes and problems? |
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