Audio improvement help

[Richard Crowley]

I am using the "Creative Cloud" subscription version of the Adobe applications.
I don't know which version of Audition you are using, but the basic functionality is the same.
Simply drag that "4" spot over to somewhere around 3600 Hz and down ~12dB
And the "H" spot over on the right end controls the low-pass (high-cut) filter as I described.
You can simple mouse-over and drag those filter spots around and hear what they sound like.

VST is a standard for using plug-ins from different vendors.
Apparently Adobe uses the VST standard even for its own built-in filters..
For the purposes of this discussion, it has no significance.

[Kathy Smith]

Originally Posted by Richard Crowley

I am using the "Creative Cloud" subscription version of the Adobe applications.
I don't know which version of Audition you are using, but the basic functionality is the same.
Simply drag that "4" spot over to somewhere around 3600 Hz and down ~12dB
And the "H" spot over on the right end controls the low-pass (high-cut) filter as I described.
You can simple mouse-over and drag those filter spots around and hear what they sound like.

VST is a standard for using plug-ins from different vendors.
Apparently Adobe uses the VST standard even for its own built-in filters..
For the purposes of this discussion, it has no significance.

Hi Richard,

I also use the CC version of Adobe Audition and don't have the same parametric EQ but it doesn't matter.
I did what you suggested and it sounds very muffled to me. I listened on two different sets of headphones (Sennheiser HD 280 Pro and Sennheiser HD 800).
I think I need to add some frequencies back in now.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/afzzbx3z1t...d4_01.wav?dl=0

[Richard Crowley]

Originally Posted by Kathy Smith

I did what you suggested and it sounds very muffled to me. I listened on two different sets of headphones (Sennheiser HD 280 Pro and Sennheiser HD 800).
I think I need to add some frequencies back in now.

I was not RECOMMENDING the settings I mentioned. I was only demonstrating HOW to do it. Please remember that what YOU hear with YOUR monitoring system, and what YOU think sounds "OK" may be very different. So I STRONGLY encourage you to experiment for yourself. DO NOT use the same settings that I used! Work out your own. That is what I meant by "season to taste".

It is poor technique to remove something that you will subsequently restore in a subsequent step. It is guaranteed to inflict audible trauma to your track.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/afzzbx3z1t...d4_01.wav?dl=0

PLEASE do not post hour-long samples!!! 30-60 seconds of an appropriate section will be MORE than enough for anyone to hear what you are talking about.

[Andrew Smith]

I've got RX4 Adbanced with a set of Event 2020 monitoring speakers.

I've done a couple of passes of broadband noise reduction and this in turn shows up the 'artificial fuzz' that I'm guessing is possibly the result of a low quality process that has been applied to your original file at some stage, possibly in the way you got it out of the recording gear.

I've tried some "dereverb" (aka echo removal) and a stiff application of this has really helped. There is still problems with the audio that remains. It's just not going to be the perfectly usable recording that you would want.

If you have the advanced version of RX4, you can grab the text file that I have uploaded, rename to a .xml extension type, and then import this in to Izotope RX4 and see what I mean.

To be honest, I'm not sure how you are going to be able to satisfactorily fix this one. You might want to have another crack at getting the audio off the recording equipment exactly as it was recorded in case this makes a difference.

Andrew

[Greg Miller]

Do you have a good recording of this same person?

[Kathy Smith]

Originally Posted by Richard Crowley

I was not RECOMMENDING the settings I mentioned. I was only demonstrating HOW to do it. Please remember that what YOU hear with YOUR monitoring system, and what YOU think sounds "OK" may be very different. So I STRONGLY encourage you to experiment for yourself. DO NOT use the same settings that I used! Work out your own. That is what I meant by "season to taste".

It is poor technique to remove something that you will subsequently restore in a subsequent step. It is guaranteed to inflict audible trauma to your track.


PLEASE do not post hour-long samples!!! 30-60 seconds of an appropriate section will be MORE than enough for anyone to hear what you are talking about.

Ooops sorry, I thought these were the settings you used and got good results.

[Kathy Smith]

Originally Posted by Andrew Smith

I've got RX4 Adbanced with a set of Event 2020 monitoring speakers.

I've done a couple of passes of broadband noise reduction and this in turn shows up the 'artificial fuzz' that I'm guessing is possibly the result of a low quality process that has been applied to your original file at some stage, possibly in the way you got it out of the recording gear.

I've tried some "dereverb" (aka echo removal) and a stiff application of this has really helped. There is still problems with the audio that remains. It's just not going to be the perfectly usable recording that you would want.

If you have the advanced version of RX4, you can grab the text file that I have uploaded, rename to a .xml extension type, and then import this in to Izotope RX4 and see what I mean.

To be honest, I'm not sure how you are going to be able to satisfactorily fix this one. You might want to have another crack at getting the audio off the recording equipment exactly as it was recorded in case this makes a difference.

Andrew

Unfortunately, I do not have the advanced version of RX. This is how the track sounds. It has nothing to do how I got it off the recording equipment. I know it won't sound great but I want to make the set out of it.

[Kathy Smith]

Originally Posted by Greg Miller

Do you have a good recording of this same person?

Hi Gary,

No, I don't, unfortunately. I could get it if it's helpful.

[Andrew Smith]

I could get it if it's helpful.

I for one would be making a beeline for getting the good copy of the recording.

Why are we otherwise doing all this messing around here???

Andrew

[Richard Crowley]

Originally Posted by Andrew Smith

I for one would be making a beeline for getting the good copy of the recording. Why are we otherwise doing all this messing around here???

Andrew, did you not get a chance to hear the original samples? The original recording is "down in the mud" with a bad noise-floor. Two passes with iZotope did a miraculous job of getting rid of most of the noise. However the very poor tonal balance is a different matter.

There is no "good copy of the recording". Unless you are implying that they re-record the whole thing?

The poor tonal balance could be significantly improved by judicious use of a parametric equalizer and I was trying to show how to do it. However it does seem pretty resistant to getting decent balance out of it.

[Andrew Smith]

I thought she was indicating that there was a better quality of the audio that she could go and get. We might need to wait for clarification from her on that one.

Andrew

[Kathy Smith]

Originally Posted by Andrew Smith

I thought she was indicating that there was a better quality of the audio that she could go and get. We might need to wait for clarification from her on that one.

I thought Gary asked if I had any voice recording of this person. I thought he wanted to compare it or something like that. I don't have a second recording of the interview and I can't redo it

[Andrew Smith]

Ahh. I see.

All the best with making the most of what you have.

Andrew

[Greg Miller]

Originally Posted by Kathy Smith

I thought Gary asked if I had any voice recording of this person. {snip} I don't have a second recording of the interview and I can't redo it

I (Greg, not Gary) understand that this is the only recording of this interview. I want to know whether you have any other good recording of this same person's voice.

[Kathy Smith]

Originally Posted by Greg Miller

I (Greg, not Gary) understand that this is the only recording of this interview. I want to know whether you have any other good recording of this same person's voice.

Sorry GREG. I do not have any other recording of the person but I can get it. Should it be from the same location?