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Shea Goodall · October 14th, 2005, 04:36 AM

I have a PD150 with the Sony CAC-12 Camera Microphone Holder. I am getting REALLY loud handling noise with my Rode NTG-1 (it's all I can afford for dialog right now). The mount is wider than the mic so I have to use foam to get the clamp to make contact. I get a constant low hum when in record and standby and any button pressing is a strict no-no when in record. Does anyone know if the rode shock mounts are any good? This is the most straight forward option I have cam across yet:

http://www.avw.co.nz/Item1.aspx?ID=7511

They look a bit cheap. I am also worried about the extended height as the CAC-12 raises the mic quite a lot already. I like the ball joint on the CAC-12 though....

What is the Lightwave Systems minimount like? What is it shock qualities like? Worth the $$$$? I'm on a tight budget at the moment

The only other option I can think of right now is if I get a boom mount like the AT8415 and weld some thread to a plate with holes.

I am wanting to keep my shoe free for a light.

Thanks,
Shea

Graeme Fullick · October 14th, 2005, 03:09 PM

Shea,

I have the Rode SM5 shock mount (for PD150) on my Sony Z1. It is great. It may look cheap in the photo, bit in the flesh it is very substantial (the mounting tube is actually machined aluminium - not plastic). It has several boompole mounts and also mounts well into Sony and Panasonic pro camera mounts. Noise isolation is excellent. When I use my Sennheiser ME64 in the camera mount on my Z1 I get considerable handling noise and can even hear the camera zoom motor - but with the SM5 - perfect, no noise!

I have a few other mounts from PFS etc., but the Rode is better at half the price.

Hope this helps.

Shea Goodall · October 14th, 2005, 08:47 PM

Thanks Graeme. I guess I can go wrong with that sort of cash. I have a pelican 1550 with my PD150 standing upright so I have scraped the mini mount as an option as I will have to take it off to fit into my case. I’m going to go with something the will clamp into the CAC-12, as I can loosen it to fit. I can even turn it 180degrees.

Is the extra cash justified though? k-sm + K-BWS......

I'm also wanting a windjammer.

Mic dimensions: 8.54 x .87" (217 x 022mm) (Length x Diameter).

Apparently the Rycote 14cm Medium Hole Softie fits? Any cheaper options? I know you get what you pay for.

K-Tek ZEPPELIN FUZZY SLIP-ON (MEDIUM)?

Will these fit with the Rode SM5 shock mount?

Anyone used Rodes Deadcat? Is it just like the Mike Muff? How do these fare?

Ok, this is where I am at. I don't want to spend too much $$$. But, I want to get something that works. I need accessories that will work with the Rode but I also want to be able to upgrade the mic and not have to buy a whole new kit right off the bat. So do I spend as little as possible and get a SM5 and a Deadcat?? Or should I get the SM5 and spend a little extra cash on a universal windjammer?

The guys down at the apparent audio "specialist" aren't helping me at all. The sell to industry but can't help me out?? I think their customers must know what they need. I want to hurry up and get this thing up and running:) So I can shoot some stuff. Non-violently of cause, shooting with my cam. Although, it may contain violence;)

Thanks.

Graeme Fullick · October 15th, 2005, 04:06 PM

Shea,

I built my own softie - actually it is a lot better than the softie - I designed it along the lines of lightwaves miniscreen - then fitted synthetic fur over the top. It cost me about A$20. I just used a plastic tea strainer for the end, some plastic gutter guard for the body and two plimbing fittings for the end that the microphone is inserted in, which create a seal around the mic body. For the inside support I sewed a bit of discarded wind foam from an old windtech I had lying around. Joined it together with plastic glue and thread. For the fur I just used synthetic arctic fox fur from the local fabric store. Compared it at the local audio shop - my home made easily outperforms the Rycote and costs about one twentieth of the price. Audio quality is the same, but the home made has better wind tolerance - we could point it straight at a fan running flat out and still no wind noise at all. The home made also has the advantage that I have designed it so the fur cover also covers the Rode SM5 - and the whole lot seals off with velcro.

My take on this is that any of the synthetic furs will help - there is little difference between them - but the greatest benefit in wind proofing comes from the dead space around the mike created by the miniature zeppelin I have built (which is why Lightwave invented the miniscreen I guess and also why pro audio guys insist on using zeppelins whenever the wind gets up). Of course you need the fur on the outside - but the space underneath is also critical.

I don't know if this is entirely helpful - but even thought the Rycote is a good product, it is enormously overpriced out here in the antipodeas, and I think that the others are good alternatives - but the fur alone will not totally remove wind noise.

Shea Goodall · October 15th, 2005, 07:25 PM

Any pics of your custom zeppelin? Blueprints? Sounds like a relaxing Sunday afternoon project. I'm keen to give it a go. One thing I have noticed since delving in to the DV world is how overpriced some thing are.

I bought the SM5. It's cut down the handling noise. I'm still getting a little when I turn the preamp gain up. Zoom motor and that hum when it is in record and standby. It's definitely an improvement though. I'm sure a can clean the audio in post with protools.

Shea

Laurence Kingston · October 17th, 2005, 10:25 AM

I'm having a heck of a time finding the Rode SM5. It's not showing up in the US in a Froogle search and a salesman at B&H couldn't find it on his computer. Where is a good place to get this (in the US)?

Graeme Fullick · October 19th, 2005, 01:09 AM

Laurence,

Here is the web site:

http://www.rode.com.au/?pagename=Accessories

I have finally found one area where we antipodeans have an advantage with buying video equipment. Rode is of course an Australian company - so the products are released here first! It should be out in the States soon! Having had to wait until yesterday to get a PAL Sony HVR A1 - you might understand our frustration at times.

Shea,
I don't have a web site to host pictures - perhaps I can e-mail something.

Shea Goodall · October 20th, 2005, 02:13 AM

Thanks Graeme. Emailing the pic is fine. You could also use a free host such as: http://www.photobucket.com
Your choice. What ever is most convenient for you. Thanks again.

Gints Klimanis · January 16th, 2006, 06:00 AM

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...ight=lightwave

Gints Klimanis · January 16th, 2006, 06:03 AM

Although I own the Lightwave, I'm currently using the Sennheiser microphone mount.
both seem to perform similarly, although the Lightwave is taller. After my disappointment in the rickediness of the Lightwave (the screws wiggle loose during a performance) and the cracked plastic piece that fits into the shoe mount, I'd rather use the Sennheiser. It wiggles around more, but it's much cheaper. Plus, the Sennhsier ships with some spare rubber bands. lightwave should do the same.

October 14th, 2005, 04:36 AM	#1
Shea Goodall Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 25	pd150 shock mount I have a PD150 with the Sony CAC-12 Camera Microphone Holder. I am getting REALLY loud handling noise with my Rode NTG-1 (it's all I can afford for dialog right now). The mount is wider than the mic so I have to use foam to get the clamp to make contact. I get a constant low hum when in record and standby and any button pressing is a strict no-no when in record. Does anyone know if the rode shock mounts are any good? This is the most straight forward option I have cam across yet: http://www.avw.co.nz/Item1.aspx?ID=7511 They look a bit cheap. I am also worried about the extended height as the CAC-12 raises the mic quite a lot already. I like the ball joint on the CAC-12 though.... What is the Lightwave Systems minimount like? What is it shock qualities like? Worth the $$$$? I'm on a tight budget at the moment The only other option I can think of right now is if I get a boom mount like the AT8415 and weld some thread to a plate with holes. I am wanting to keep my shoe free for a light. Thanks, Shea

October 14th, 2005, 03:09 PM	#2
Graeme Fullick Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Newcastle, Australia Posts: 337	Shea, I have the Rode SM5 shock mount (for PD150) on my Sony Z1. It is great. It may look cheap in the photo, bit in the flesh it is very substantial (the mounting tube is actually machined aluminium - not plastic). It has several boompole mounts and also mounts well into Sony and Panasonic pro camera mounts. Noise isolation is excellent. When I use my Sennheiser ME64 in the camera mount on my Z1 I get considerable handling noise and can even hear the camera zoom motor - but with the SM5 - perfect, no noise! I have a few other mounts from PFS etc., but the Rode is better at half the price. Hope this helps. __________________ Graeme

October 15th, 2005, 04:06 PM	#4
Graeme Fullick Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Newcastle, Australia Posts: 337	Shea, I built my own softie - actually it is a lot better than the softie - I designed it along the lines of lightwaves miniscreen - then fitted synthetic fur over the top. It cost me about A$20. I just used a plastic tea strainer for the end, some plastic gutter guard for the body and two plimbing fittings for the end that the microphone is inserted in, which create a seal around the mic body. For the inside support I sewed a bit of discarded wind foam from an old windtech I had lying around. Joined it together with plastic glue and thread. For the fur I just used synthetic arctic fox fur from the local fabric store. Compared it at the local audio shop - my home made easily outperforms the Rycote and costs about one twentieth of the price. Audio quality is the same, but the home made has better wind tolerance - we could point it straight at a fan running flat out and still no wind noise at all. The home made also has the advantage that I have designed it so the fur cover also covers the Rode SM5 - and the whole lot seals off with velcro. My take on this is that any of the synthetic furs will help - there is little difference between them - but the greatest benefit in wind proofing comes from the dead space around the mike created by the miniature zeppelin I have built (which is why Lightwave invented the miniscreen I guess and also why pro audio guys insist on using zeppelins whenever the wind gets up). Of course you need the fur on the outside - but the space underneath is also critical. I don't know if this is entirely helpful - but even thought the Rycote is a good product, it is enormously overpriced out here in the antipodeas, and I think that the others are good alternatives - but the fur alone will not totally remove wind noise. __________________ Graeme

October 19th, 2005, 01:09 AM	#7
Graeme Fullick Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Newcastle, Australia Posts: 337	Laurence, Here is the web site: http://www.rode.com.au/?pagename=Accessories I have finally found one area where we antipodeans have an advantage with buying video equipment. Rode is of course an Australian company - so the products are released here first! It should be out in the States soon! Having had to wait until yesterday to get a PAL Sony HVR A1 - you might understand our frustration at times. Shea, I don't have a web site to host pictures - perhaps I can e-mail something. __________________ Graeme

January 16th, 2006, 06:00 AM	#9
Gints Klimanis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,222	comments on LightWave shock mount http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...ight=lightwave

October 14th, 2005, 08:47 PM	#3
Shea Goodall Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 25	Thanks Graeme. I guess I can go wrong with that sort of cash. I have a pelican 1550 with my PD150 standing upright so I have scraped the mini mount as an option as I will have to take it off to fit into my case. I’m going to go with something the will clamp into the CAC-12, as I can loosen it to fit. I can even turn it 180degrees. Is the extra cash justified though? k-sm + K-BWS...... I'm also wanting a windjammer. Mic dimensions: 8.54 x .87" (217 x 022mm) (Length x Diameter). Apparently the Rycote 14cm Medium Hole Softie fits? Any cheaper options? I know you get what you pay for. K-Tek ZEPPELIN FUZZY SLIP-ON (MEDIUM)? Will these fit with the Rode SM5 shock mount? Anyone used Rodes Deadcat? Is it just like the Mike Muff? How do these fare? Ok, this is where I am at. I don't want to spend too much $$$. But, I want to get something that works. I need accessories that will work with the Rode but I also want to be able to upgrade the mic and not have to buy a whole new kit right off the bat. So do I spend as little as possible and get a SM5 and a Deadcat?? Or should I get the SM5 and spend a little extra cash on a universal windjammer? The guys down at the apparent audio "specialist" aren't helping me at all. The sell to industry but can't help me out?? I think their customers must know what they need. I want to hurry up and get this thing up and running:) So I can shoot some stuff. Non-violently of cause, shooting with my cam. Although, it may contain violence;) Thanks.

October 15th, 2005, 07:25 PM	#5
Shea Goodall Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 25	Any pics of your custom zeppelin? Blueprints? Sounds like a relaxing Sunday afternoon project. I'm keen to give it a go. One thing I have noticed since delving in to the DV world is how overpriced some thing are. I bought the SM5. It's cut down the handling noise. I'm still getting a little when I turn the preamp gain up. Zoom motor and that hum when it is in record and standby. It's definitely an improvement though. I'm sure a can clean the audio in post with protools. Shea

October 17th, 2005, 10:25 AM	#6
Laurence Kingston Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Clermont, FL. Posts: 941	I'm having a heck of a time finding the Rode SM5. It's not showing up in the US in a Froogle search and a salesman at B&H couldn't find it on his computer. Where is a good place to get this (in the US)?

October 20th, 2005, 02:13 AM	#8
Shea Goodall Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 25	Thanks Graeme. Emailing the pic is fine. You could also use a free host such as: http://www.photobucket.com Your choice. What ever is most convenient for you. Thanks again.

January 16th, 2006, 06:03 AM	#10
Gints Klimanis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,222	use a Sennheiser microphone mount Although I own the Lightwave, I'm currently using the Sennheiser microphone mount. both seem to perform similarly, although the Lightwave is taller. After my disappointment in the rickediness of the Lightwave (the screws wiggle loose during a performance) and the cracked plastic piece that fits into the shoe mount, I'd rather use the Sennheiser. It wiggles around more, but it's much cheaper. Plus, the Sennhsier ships with some spare rubber bands. lightwave should do the same.