New to Video and Sound at DVinfo.net

Chris Brown · January 23rd, 2014, 07:11 PM

I've been a photographer for 15 years and have always been fascinated with video so I decided to jump in. I now have a great respect for Videographers. There is just so much too learn. I added two Sony ea50's to shoot with and I am now looking at equipment to capture sound. I'm think about adding a Sennheiser EW 112P G3-A that comes with a ME-2 also I'm am thinking about Two H1's. As a newbie I am wondering what the pros think about this as a starter kit and what I might need to add besides the knowledge of how to use this equipment. Ha Ha. I have been reading these forums or a few weeks now and have learned a lot so far but there is still much to learn. Any advice or recommendation on the above equipment or any other would be greatly appreciated. I forgot to mention I will be shooting mostly Weddings and Receptions and editing in Sony Vegas Pro 12. Thanks again for any advice.

Chris

Richard Crowley · January 23rd, 2014, 07:30 PM

That sounds like a reasonable kit. It is probably better than many wedding videographers use.

Chris Brown · January 23rd, 2014, 07:42 PM

Thanks for the reply. Soooo much equipment to choose from and I feel I might go crazy before it's all over. When I started in photography I wasted too much money in the beginning not buying the right equipment and trying to go too cheap. I ended up spending more that way. I'm trying to setup with equipment that I'll be happy with for a while. Just wondering if I need another lav for one of the h1's. I've read a lot about not having enough audio backed up.

Richard Crowley · January 23rd, 2014, 08:22 PM

The ME-2 mics that come with the Sennheiser EW G3 kits are not known for their quality. Many people substitute a better mic to improve performance quality.

If you are not happy with the voice recorder pickup with the onboard microphones, then certainly try a plug-in lav. Even the ME-2 mics from the Sennheisers will likely be better than the on-board mics, not to mention that it is much easier to get external mics in a better position for good sound.

Chris Brown · January 23rd, 2014, 09:20 PM

What lavs would you suggest Also is the ME 4s better.

Les Wilson · January 23rd, 2014, 10:45 PM

@chris ... do a search in this forum and you'll find recommendations. Also, check out the DVE Store who supports DVINFO. Guy Cochran has made a lot of comparison videos and hangs out here.

Rick Reineke · January 24th, 2014, 11:33 AM

"is the ME 4s better?"
- The ME-4 is the cardioid version of the ME series. Cardioid lavs are NOT recommended.
For a better quality omni lav, there are many choices. Best 'bang for the buck' IMO are the Oscar SoundTech OST-801, 802 or TL40. The 801/2 are identical in size/shape to the venerable Tram TR50. The TL40 is an end-address lav, about the size of a Countryman B3. OST mics are highly regarded amongst 'major league' pros and are made in NJ. OST's customer service is outstanding.

Chris Brown · January 24th, 2014, 01:59 PM

I will look at these right now, you guys are awesome. I've been on a lot of forums before and I gotta say since visiting all the forums as of late Videographers seem to give the most help.

Thanks again.

Colin McDonald · January 25th, 2014, 04:39 AM

Sennheiser's own MKE-2 Gold is a big step up in quality. Definitely worth a listen if you can get to try them out.
I use them all the time with G2/ G3 radio systems.

January 23rd, 2014, 07:11 PM	#1
Chris Brown Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Adrian Michigan Posts: 46	New to Video and Sound I've been a photographer for 15 years and have always been fascinated with video so I decided to jump in. I now have a great respect for Videographers. There is just so much too learn. I added two Sony ea50's to shoot with and I am now looking at equipment to capture sound. I'm think about adding a Sennheiser EW 112P G3-A that comes with a ME-2 also I'm am thinking about Two H1's. As a newbie I am wondering what the pros think about this as a starter kit and what I might need to add besides the knowledge of how to use this equipment. Ha Ha. I have been reading these forums or a few weeks now and have learned a lot so far but there is still much to learn. Any advice or recommendation on the above equipment or any other would be greatly appreciated. I forgot to mention I will be shooting mostly Weddings and Receptions and editing in Sony Vegas Pro 12. Thanks again for any advice. Chris

January 23rd, 2014, 07:30 PM	#2
Richard Crowley Trustee Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 1,238	Re: New to Video and Sound That sounds like a reasonable kit. It is probably better than many wedding videographers use.

January 23rd, 2014, 07:42 PM	#3
Chris Brown Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Adrian Michigan Posts: 46	Re: New to Video and Sound Thanks for the reply. Soooo much equipment to choose from and I feel I might go crazy before it's all over. When I started in photography I wasted too much money in the beginning not buying the right equipment and trying to go too cheap. I ended up spending more that way. I'm trying to setup with equipment that I'll be happy with for a while. Just wondering if I need another lav for one of the h1's. I've read a lot about not having enough audio backed up.

January 23rd, 2014, 08:22 PM	#4
Richard Crowley Trustee Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 1,238	Re: New to Video and Sound The ME-2 mics that come with the Sennheiser EW G3 kits are not known for their quality. Many people substitute a better mic to improve performance quality. If you are not happy with the voice recorder pickup with the onboard microphones, then certainly try a plug-in lav. Even the ME-2 mics from the Sennheisers will likely be better than the on-board mics, not to mention that it is much easier to get external mics in a better position for good sound.

January 23rd, 2014, 09:20 PM	#5
Chris Brown Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Adrian Michigan Posts: 46	Re: New to Video and Sound What lavs would you suggest Also is the ME 4s better.

January 23rd, 2014, 10:45 PM	#6
Les Wilson Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 3,014	Re: New to Video and Sound @chris ... do a search in this forum and you'll find recommendations. Also, check out the DVE Store who supports DVINFO. Guy Cochran has made a lot of comparison videos and hangs out here.

January 24th, 2014, 11:33 AM	#7
Rick Reineke Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: New York Posts: 2,039	Re: New to Video and Sound "is the ME 4s better?" - The ME-4 is the cardioid version of the ME series. Cardioid lavs are NOT recommended. For a better quality omni lav, there are many choices. Best 'bang for the buck' IMO are the Oscar SoundTech OST-801, 802 or TL40. The 801/2 are identical in size/shape to the venerable Tram TR50. The TL40 is an end-address lav, about the size of a Countryman B3. OST mics are highly regarded amongst 'major league' pros and are made in NJ. OST's customer service is outstanding.

January 24th, 2014, 01:59 PM	#8
Chris Brown Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Adrian Michigan Posts: 46	Re: New to Video and Sound I will look at these right now, you guys are awesome. I've been on a lot of forums before and I gotta say since visiting all the forums as of late Videographers seem to give the most help. Thanks again.

January 25th, 2014, 04:39 AM	#9
Colin McDonald Trustee Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 1,546	Re: New to Video and Sound Sennheiser's own MKE-2 Gold is a big step up in quality. Definitely worth a listen if you can get to try them out. I use them all the time with G2/ G3 radio systems.