External Mic Recommendation for Pany TM700 (Outdoor Use for Soccer)

Jim Andrada · September 2nd, 2013, 09:32 PM

Probably more accurate to say that the shotgun tends to bias the pickup somewhat more toward what it's pointed at than to what's off axis than to say it rejects the off axis sound.

What kind of soccer game are you thinking of? Could you put a lav and at miniature recorder on a couple of the players? Probably unlikely I know, but doesn't hurt to ask.

Alan Henderson · September 5th, 2013, 07:30 AM

I'll be shooting youth soccer this fall and high school in the spring.

The most challenging with be high school. A few of the parents are really obnoxious.

Roberto Diaz · September 5th, 2013, 08:01 AM

rather than a technology solution, how about a practical one?

perhaps record from somewhere else (i.e., somewhere away from the loud spectators). could you go to another part of the field where there are fewer parents around -- maybe the opposite side of the field?

or perhaps "mask" the spectator noise in post by lowering the audio level and adding some background music.

the nice thing is that either of these are no cost.

Ty Ford · September 9th, 2013, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan Henderson

I guess I'm asking what might be better than the built in internal microphone.

It does a wonderful job of picking up voice chatter on the field, as well as everything else around it, including loud parents as one poster noted.

I thought the purpose of a shotgun mic was to tune out everything except what it is pointed at.

FYI - I admit I am clueless about audio. Have read lots of articles but none focus on using a mic outdoors.

Alan

Hello Alan,

One reason they call for "Quiet on the set" is that even shotgun mics are very non-directional at mid and low frequencies. Any mic you mount on your camera will be somewhat sensitive to the sounds around you. Shotgun mics in no way resemble zoom lenses in their theoretical (or practical) operation.

Regards,

Ty Ford

David Cordero · October 2nd, 2013, 07:26 PM

I record a lot of youth soccer game. I bought a videomic pro thinking that player voices in the field will be a good element to the video. But now, I try and lower the audio when I render the footage, as it is sometimes difficult to control the sound of wind.. and obnoxious parents.

Roberto Diaz · October 2nd, 2013, 08:27 PM

i always use a "dead cat" when recording outside to cut down on wind noise.

September 2nd, 2013, 09:32 PM	#16
Jim Andrada Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 2,211	Re: External Mic Recommendation for Pany TM700 (Outdoor Use for Soccer) Probably more accurate to say that the shotgun tends to bias the pickup somewhat more toward what it's pointed at than to what's off axis than to say it rejects the off axis sound. What kind of soccer game are you thinking of? Could you put a lav and at miniature recorder on a couple of the players? Probably unlikely I know, but doesn't hurt to ask.

September 5th, 2013, 07:30 AM	#17
Alan Henderson Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 96	Re: External Mic Recommendation for Pany TM700 (Outdoor Use for Soccer) I'll be shooting youth soccer this fall and high school in the spring. The most challenging with be high school. A few of the parents are really obnoxious.

September 5th, 2013, 08:01 AM	#18
Roberto Diaz Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Northwest Chicago, IL Posts: 61	Re: External Mic Recommendation for Pany TM700 (Outdoor Use for Soccer) rather than a technology solution, how about a practical one? perhaps record from somewhere else (i.e., somewhere away from the loud spectators). could you go to another part of the field where there are fewer parents around -- maybe the opposite side of the field? or perhaps "mask" the spectator noise in post by lowering the audio level and adding some background music. the nice thing is that either of these are no cost.

October 2nd, 2013, 07:26 PM	#20
David Cordero New Boot Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 16	Re: External Mic Recommendation for Pany TM700 (Outdoor Use for Soccer) I record a lot of youth soccer game. I bought a videomic pro thinking that player voices in the field will be a good element to the video. But now, I try and lower the audio when I render the footage, as it is sometimes difficult to control the sound of wind.. and obnoxious parents.

October 2nd, 2013, 08:27 PM	#21
Roberto Diaz Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Northwest Chicago, IL Posts: 61	Re: External Mic Recommendation for Pany TM700 (Outdoor Use for Soccer) i always use a "dead cat" when recording outside to cut down on wind noise.