Going from SD 442 to 552? at DVinfo.net

Garrett Low · April 22nd, 2013, 08:32 PM

Hi all,

I'm thinking of selling my SD 442 and getting a 552. The main reason I'm thinking about it is to have post fade direct outs. I'm sending the direct outs to a Tascam DR-680 which is great because it gives me 4 discrete channels and I can still get the mix recorded too. The only thing I wish the 442 had was the option to have post fade direct outs. I'm finding I'm recording more small ensemble music sessions and keeping the separate direct outs is a real plus.

Any thoughts or experiences would be appreciated. The cost for the extra channel and post fade direct outs would be about $1000 if I can find a good used 552.

Thanks,

Brian P. Reynolds · April 22nd, 2013, 10:28 PM

Why are you wanting post fader direct outs..... doesn't this defeat the purpose of direct outs?

Im looking at upgrading my recorder and thinking of the DR680 like you have, Im thinking the 4 direct outs of the SD442 into Tascam 1-4 and the mix O/P from the TA3 sockets into Ch 5&6..

Garrett Low · April 23rd, 2013, 09:06 AM

Brian, I am doing exactly what you are thing. I take the 4 direct outs to channels 1 through 4 on the DR-680. Then I have the mixed out going into 5 and 6.

The reason for the post fade directs is to keep the discrete channels while having the fine adjustments of the channel fader. The gain control is a course adjustment and doesn't give me the ability to make slight adjustments. The other thing is that I believe on the 442 the direct outs only go through the input limiter and you do not have the benefit of the output limiter.

I know this is not typical for most people but it is something that comes in very handy for live recording sessions of bands. The 552 gives you the choice of either pre or post fade and would give me the ability to ride the levels a bit when an especially loud or soft passage is coming up. The 552 is one of the few serious field mixers that I've seen that has this option.

Brian P. Reynolds · April 23rd, 2013, 11:15 AM

What about going for the SD 664 and do it all in one package?

Garrett Low · April 23rd, 2013, 06:00 PM

Thought about going the 664 route. I know a lot of people that are. But, for me I like the meters on the 552 better and the added cost for going to the 664 doesn't seem justified. It is one sweat piece of gear though. I also wish that they would have made it able to record at 95kHz.

April 22nd, 2013, 08:32 PM	#1
Garrett Low Trustee Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Novato, CA Posts: 1,774	Going from SD 442 to 552? Hi all, I'm thinking of selling my SD 442 and getting a 552. The main reason I'm thinking about it is to have post fade direct outs. I'm sending the direct outs to a Tascam DR-680 which is great because it gives me 4 discrete channels and I can still get the mix recorded too. The only thing I wish the 442 had was the option to have post fade direct outs. I'm finding I'm recording more small ensemble music sessions and keeping the separate direct outs is a real plus. Any thoughts or experiences would be appreciated. The cost for the extra channel and post fade direct outs would be about $1000 if I can find a good used 552. Thanks, __________________ Garrett Low www.GLowMediaProductions.com

April 22nd, 2013, 10:28 PM	#2
Brian P. Reynolds Major Player Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 466	Re: Going from SD 442 to 552? Why are you wanting post fader direct outs..... doesn't this defeat the purpose of direct outs? Im looking at upgrading my recorder and thinking of the DR680 like you have, Im thinking the 4 direct outs of the SD442 into Tascam 1-4 and the mix O/P from the TA3 sockets into Ch 5&6..

April 23rd, 2013, 09:06 AM	#3
Garrett Low Trustee Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Novato, CA Posts: 1,774	Re: Going from SD 442 to 552? Brian, I am doing exactly what you are thing. I take the 4 direct outs to channels 1 through 4 on the DR-680. Then I have the mixed out going into 5 and 6. The reason for the post fade directs is to keep the discrete channels while having the fine adjustments of the channel fader. The gain control is a course adjustment and doesn't give me the ability to make slight adjustments. The other thing is that I believe on the 442 the direct outs only go through the input limiter and you do not have the benefit of the output limiter. I know this is not typical for most people but it is something that comes in very handy for live recording sessions of bands. The 552 gives you the choice of either pre or post fade and would give me the ability to ride the levels a bit when an especially loud or soft passage is coming up. The 552 is one of the few serious field mixers that I've seen that has this option. __________________ Garrett Low www.GLowMediaProductions.com

April 23rd, 2013, 11:15 AM	#4
Brian P. Reynolds Major Player Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 466	Re: Going from SD 442 to 552? What about going for the SD 664 and do it all in one package?

April 23rd, 2013, 06:00 PM	#5
Garrett Low Trustee Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Novato, CA Posts: 1,774	Re: Going from SD 442 to 552? Thought about going the 664 route. I know a lot of people that are. But, for me I like the meters on the 552 better and the added cost for going to the 664 doesn't seem justified. It is one sweat piece of gear though. I also wish that they would have made it able to record at 95kHz. __________________ Garrett Low www.GLowMediaProductions.com