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Which output in the mixer to Zoom H2?
I know this is probably basic audio stuff, but I never got around to learn it. So far I've been playing it by ear when it comes to recording the mixer's output at events to my Zoom H2 recorder, and after trying a couple of outputs that seemed to be line outs but nothing came out, I just connected the cable to the headphones jack, but I know there's gotta be a better way to get the pure signal in the path right before it goes out to the amplifier. The problem is I don't know much about mixers and I don't have a chance to play with one for several days to learn.
Can anyone tell me what's the output I should look for, and what switches to move and buttons to press, or a website with some tutorial to learn without having a mixer at hand? Thanks, Sebastian |
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Re: Which output in the mixer to Zoom H2?
Use the H2's 1/8" 'Line in' mini jack..preferably get a feed from a mixing board's RCA out if it has one. (you will want a 'dual RCA to stereo 1/8" ' adapter cable, which is pretty common these days
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Re: Which output in the mixer to Zoom H2?
RCA? Don't mixers have a line output using a 1/4 jack as well as the RCAs? I'm asking because I have a cable that is 1/4 male on both ends that I paid like $20 at Radio Shack because I was in a hurry and couldn't get it from Monoprice and I would like to use it if possible.
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Re: Which output in the mixer to Zoome out H2?
Yes Seb, but.. the boards (-10dB) RCAs are less likely to overload the H2's (delicate) input stage if the board is being pushed to the max. A pro board's 1/4" and XLR line outs are normally +4dB. The H2's line input wants to see -10dB.
Regardless, even with your current 1/4 to 1/4 cable, you would still need an adapter and it would not feed both channels of the recorder... stereo or dual-mono.. |
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Re: Which output in the mixer to Zoom H2?
Oh I see. But what do you mean by not feeding both channels? I do have the adapter, but you mean the 1/4 jacks in mixers don't output stereo?
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Re: Which output in the mixer to Zoom H2?
Not though a single 1/4" jack... unlike a 1/4" headphone output, there's normally separate Left and Right connections.
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Re: Which output in the mixer to Zoom H2?
"Mixer" covers a wide spectrum, from 2 to 4 channel field mixers for film and video production sound to multi-channel mixing consoles used for venue and recording studio sound boards. So before we get too far, please clarify just what sort of mixer and situation are you are asking about?
Different manufacturers setup their boards different and to a certain extent may label the controls differently as well, so what button to push, dial to set, or switch to throw doesn't always have a tidy pat answer. There're more variations in the way mixing consoles are set up than there are in field mixers.
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Re: Which output in the mixer to Zoom H2?
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Mixer outputs are typically one of two levels ... professional "studio" line levels, a nominal +4dBu, or the lower "consumer" line level, nominally -10dBv. The 1/4" outputs on most consoles would typically be +4, the RCA or "Tape" outputs -10. Your Zoom line input is rated for and expects to see a -10dBv level signal.
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Re: Which output in the mixer to Zoom H2?
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The Tape output usually parallels the main mix that is going to the PA speakers so a drawback of this arrangement is that as the DJ adjusts the volume your recording level is also going to change.
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Re: Which output in the mixer to Zoom H2?
Don't routinely buy from Radio Shack either, just was showing that as an example of the type you need. Sometimes in a pinch I do buy at the Shack, they';re okay if you watch what you're getting and don't go for the cheapest. I also don't bother with 'audiofool' products like Monster Cable - way overpriced and no better than mainstream professional cables. Not familar with Monoprice.
My preferred sources are Trew Audio in Toronto and I also order from Full Compass.
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Re: Which output in the mixer to Zoom H2?
Full Compass is a good retailer, very nice people too, I got my AX2000 from them. But for cables, nothing beats Monoprice, both in quality and prices. Normally for those prices you would get the worst quality cables if that much, but all the cables I bought from them since 6 years ago are top quality and the prices are unreal. The only time they disappointed me was with some speaker brackets that were supposed to hold 10 lbs max and they were good for 3 lbs at best, and of course I returned them. But for cables they are the best.
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Re: Which output in the mixer to Zoom H2?
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Not to confuse you but there number of ways get sound from a 'house' system, via splitters, aux sends, direct outs, matrix's and sub masters. My preferred set-up for educational seminars was to run all the mics though my mixer and feed the house PA via a pre-fader aux send. I used the main faders for the recording mix. I hear ya Seb, the Shack o' Shame (Radio Shack) sucks, but in a pinch, there are few options. |
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