To add reverb or not in post at DVinfo.net

Steven Davis · August 24th, 2005, 08:59 AM

Hi all,

I was sitting here getting my game plan for this wedding I'm editing. And I just wanted to ask an opinion question.

For those who use the lav mic on the B&G, in post do you add reverb or an echo so that the vows ect are not so flat?

I have really good lav audio, and was going to add some reverb so the vows don't sound like they are right next to the cam.

Just wondering what you all do.

Stephen Finton · August 24th, 2005, 09:13 AM

I'd give an example of it to the bride and groom before you commit it to the final project.

You could probably add a soft mist effect with the reverb to make it like a soap opera dream sequence, too. Women eat that stuff up.

But just give them some examples before you hand them the final project, otherwise you may find yourself on Judge Judy trying to explain yourself.

Steven Davis · August 24th, 2005, 11:39 AM

Hmm, how is a soft mist effect done in Vegas/Acid?

Jay Massengill · August 24th, 2005, 12:05 PM

As for audio reverb in this case, I'd only add the most subtle hint to make the audio perspective more natural. It should not be noticeable. So make sure you're working with very good monitors while editing and try some tests on ordinary TV speakers too.

Stephen Finton · August 24th, 2005, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Davis

Hmm, how is a soft mist effect done in Vegas/Acid?

I don't know. Fog? What filters do you have available?

Glenn Chan · August 24th, 2005, 08:37 PM

You can get the soft mist effect by getting the sound effect off sounddogs.com.

Or maybe you mean soft focus... in which case, you can:
Vegas 6 only: Nest the project, and superimpose the nest onto itself. On the top layer, set opacity to 50% and add gaussian blur.

OR

Quick blur, amount 50%

OR

Sony Glow gives a different effect.

Some other ways to do it too, like Zenote glow. Or use a diffusion filter when you shoot.

Steven Davis · August 25th, 2005, 07:13 AM

Nice Glenn, thanks for the advice. I'll give a whirl.

Jonathan Nicholas · August 29th, 2005, 12:12 PM

No.

They don't do this on tv.

Jon

Matt Brabender · September 19th, 2005, 01:15 AM

Using the audio from the second camera can sometimes work beautifully.
Of course it depends on where (or if) it was setup, what enviroment you're working with and the level of ambience.

I mixed an outdoor weddding like this and it worked really well - you can here some birds chirping, the leaves rustling in the wind etc... and it all adds to the realism of the video - makes it sound like you're there.

August 24th, 2005, 08:59 AM	#1
Steven Davis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,065	To add reverb or not in post Hi all, I was sitting here getting my game plan for this wedding I'm editing. And I just wanted to ask an opinion question. For those who use the lav mic on the B&G, in post do you add reverb or an echo so that the vows ect are not so flat? I have really good lav audio, and was going to add some reverb so the vows don't sound like they are right next to the cam. Just wondering what you all do. __________________ What happens if I push the 'Red' button?

August 24th, 2005, 11:39 AM	#3
Steven Davis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,065	Hmm, how is a soft mist effect done in Vegas/Acid? __________________ What happens if I push the 'Red' button?

August 25th, 2005, 07:13 AM	#7
Steven Davis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,065	Nice Glenn, thanks for the advice. I'll give a whirl. __________________ What happens if I push the 'Red' button?

August 24th, 2005, 09:13 AM	#2
Stephen Finton Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 344	I'd give an example of it to the bride and groom before you commit it to the final project. You could probably add a soft mist effect with the reverb to make it like a soap opera dream sequence, too. Women eat that stuff up. But just give them some examples before you hand them the final project, otherwise you may find yourself on Judge Judy trying to explain yourself.

August 24th, 2005, 12:05 PM	#4
Jay Massengill Trustee Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Burlington Posts: 1,976	As for audio reverb in this case, I'd only add the most subtle hint to make the audio perspective more natural. It should not be noticeable. So make sure you're working with very good monitors while editing and try some tests on ordinary TV speakers too.

August 24th, 2005, 08:37 PM	#6
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	You can get the soft mist effect by getting the sound effect off sounddogs.com. Or maybe you mean soft focus... in which case, you can: Vegas 6 only: Nest the project, and superimpose the nest onto itself. On the top layer, set opacity to 50% and add gaussian blur. OR Quick blur, amount 50% OR Sony Glow gives a different effect. Some other ways to do it too, like Zenote glow. Or use a diffusion filter when you shoot.

August 29th, 2005, 12:12 PM	#8
Jonathan Nicholas Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 90	No. They don't do this on tv. Jon

September 19th, 2005, 01:15 AM	#9
Matt Brabender Major Player Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 230	Using the audio from the second camera can sometimes work beautifully. Of course it depends on where (or if) it was setup, what enviroment you're working with and the level of ambience. I mixed an outdoor weddding like this and it worked really well - you can here some birds chirping, the leaves rustling in the wind etc... and it all adds to the realism of the video - makes it sound like you're there.