iRiver mp3 recorder/player with a lavalier mic at DVinfo.net

David Phillips · August 17th, 2005, 03:53 PM

Hi.
I'm thinking of trying out an iRiver mp3 recorder/player with a lavalier mic as a backup for weddings, but I'm not quite sure how I get this into FCP3.
Any Idea's?
Thanks

Jack Smith · August 17th, 2005, 09:26 PM

I dont use a Mac however the iRivers are supported.You would tranfer the audio from the iRiver via USB using the iRiver manager.then convert the file (.rec) to mp3.I think you can also convert to another format( not sure which one) Then import it intoFCP .maybe someone with a Mac can chime in.

Brett Whited · August 18th, 2005, 04:57 AM

David-
I have an iRiver 790 (256MB) and a Mac. I use Final Cut Express however, the import process is the same. You do have to use the iRiver manager, it won't let you import any other way. Just import it (it will be an mp3), then you can drag it into iTunes and convert it to an AIFF file for FCP. It's that simple. The iRiver takes very nice recording. Look into getting a Giant Squid iRiver Mic.
-Brett

David Phillips · August 18th, 2005, 06:24 AM

Souds good Brett, the only problem is, I don't have i tunes. Is that the only option?
Dave

Brett Whited · August 18th, 2005, 06:29 AM

Haha, sorry if this sounds rude...but how can you not have iTunes if you have a Mac??? It comes standard on every Mac. If you don't have it, download it from Apple's site. You can also use Quicktime Pro to convert mp3 (or any other file format) to AIFF's. I don't have it, but that's what I've heard anyway.

But whenever you get iTunes, you'll have to go to the "Importing" tab and change the file format to AIFF, drag the recorded file into iTunes, right click (or control click) on it and select "Convert selection to AIFF". After that you can go to FCP and find the file, import it and that's it. It's fairly simple. Hope all that helps....
-Brett

Michael J. Long · August 28th, 2005, 04:29 AM

I have been reading a lot of threads about the iriver for recording audio. ijust received my IRIVER 895. A little difficult to navigate ,maybe because I'm getting to old. Problem is , I plugged a small mic that I had from a Sony Walkman cassette recorder. don't know if it recorded . Can't play anything back. Am I doing something wrong ? I have the EXT mic Checked, Please advise slowly.
Much Thanks
Mike Long

Mark A. Foley · August 28th, 2005, 07:29 AM

Mike,
Unless you have a mic specifically wired for the iRiver (i.e. Giant Squid), you must record in stereo regardless if the mic you choose is mono...

This is a general guide for setting up the iRiver

***SETTINGS***

Timer (manual section 5-17)

- Sleep power off - OFF / Beep OFF
- Stop Power off - 60 min

Control - (manual section 5-22)

- Line in recording mode:
Mono
44.1KHz
160 Kbps

Stereo
44.1Khz
320 Kbps

- Line In Rec Volume: 45 (Giant Squid Mic) 50 (MT830 mic) 50-55 (Azden 503)

- Line In Auto Sync: OFF

- Line In / Ext Mic: EXT MIC

***SETUP***

1. Connect mic to line-in jack
2. Set line in rec mode as above (SETTINGS)
3. Press and HOLD "Mode/Rec" button
4. Select Line-In mode
5. Press "Nav/Menu" button to go to PAUSED record mode
6. Press REC
7. Engage the LOCK!

***STOPPING***

1. Unlock
2. Press "Mode/Rec" button
3. Press and HOLD the STOP button

Expected record times based on 512 Mb model (256 will be half...1Gb will be double the record time below)
In mono:
44hz 32kbps = 23 hours: 27 minutes
" " 40kbps = 18 Hours: 54 minutes
" "" 48kbps = 15 hours: 45 minutes
" " 56kbps = 13 hours: 30 minutes
" " 64kbps = 11 hours: 48 minutes
" " 80kbps = 9 hours: 27 minutes
" " 96kbps = 7 hours: 52 minutes
" " 112kbps = 6 hours: 45 minutes
" " 128kbps = 5 hours: 54 minutes
" " 160kbps = 4 hours: 43 minutes

In Stereo:
44hz 64kbps = 11 hours: 53 minutes
" " 80kbps = 9 Hours: 31 minutes
" "" 96kbps = 7 hours: 55 minutes
" " 112kbps = 6 hours: 47 minutes
" " 128kbps = 5 hours: 56 minutes
" " 160kbps = 4 hours: 45 minutes
" " 192kbps = 3 hours: 92 minutes
" " 224kbps = 3 hours: 23 minutes
" " 256kbps = 2 hours: 58 minutes
" " 320kbps = 2 hours: 22 minutes

Jack Smith · August 28th, 2005, 10:17 PM

All very good info.Mark , your times are different than my experience and not sure how you obtained them.Do you have other audio files taking up some space?Example is 1gb unit at 44k 320kbps= over 7 hours

August 17th, 2005, 03:53 PM	#1
David Phillips Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Norwich Norfolk UK Posts: 112	iRiver mp3 recorder/player with a lavalier mic Hi. I'm thinking of trying out an iRiver mp3 recorder/player with a lavalier mic as a backup for weddings, but I'm not quite sure how I get this into FCP3. Any Idea's? Thanks __________________ David Phillips

August 18th, 2005, 06:24 AM	#4
David Phillips Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Norwich Norfolk UK Posts: 112	iRiver 790 Souds good Brett, the only problem is, I don't have i tunes. Is that the only option? Dave __________________ David Phillips

August 28th, 2005, 04:29 AM	#6
Michael J. Long Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 43	Iriver 895 I have been reading a lot of threads about the iriver for recording audio. ijust received my IRIVER 895. A little difficult to navigate ,maybe because I'm getting to old. Problem is , I plugged a small mic that I had from a Sony Walkman cassette recorder. don't know if it recorded . Can't play anything back. Am I doing something wrong ? I have the EXT mic Checked, Please advise slowly. Much Thanks Mike Long

August 28th, 2005, 07:29 AM	#7
Mark A. Foley Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bonaire, Ga. Posts: 356	Mike, Unless you have a mic specifically wired for the iRiver (i.e. Giant Squid), you must record in stereo regardless if the mic you choose is mono... This is a general guide for setting up the iRiver *SETTINGS* Timer (manual section 5-17) - Sleep power off - OFF / Beep OFF - Stop Power off - 60 min Control - (manual section 5-22) - Line in recording mode: Mono 44.1KHz 160 Kbps Stereo 44.1Khz 320 Kbps - Line In Rec Volume: 45 (Giant Squid Mic) 50 (MT830 mic) 50-55 (Azden 503) - Line In Auto Sync: OFF - Line In / Ext Mic: EXT MIC *SETUP* 1. Connect mic to line-in jack 2. Set line in rec mode as above (SETTINGS) 3. Press and HOLD "Mode/Rec" button 4. Select Line-In mode 5. Press "Nav/Menu" button to go to PAUSED record mode 6. Press REC 7. Engage the LOCK! *STOPPING* 1. Unlock 2. Press "Mode/Rec" button 3. Press and HOLD the STOP button Expected record times based on 512 Mb model (256 will be half...1Gb will be double the record time below) In mono: 44hz 32kbps = 23 hours: 27 minutes " " 40kbps = 18 Hours: 54 minutes " "" 48kbps = 15 hours: 45 minutes " " 56kbps = 13 hours: 30 minutes " " 64kbps = 11 hours: 48 minutes " " 80kbps = 9 hours: 27 minutes " " 96kbps = 7 hours: 52 minutes " " 112kbps = 6 hours: 45 minutes " " 128kbps = 5 hours: 54 minutes " " 160kbps = 4 hours: 43 minutes In Stereo: 44hz 64kbps = 11 hours: 53 minutes " " 80kbps = 9 Hours: 31 minutes " "" 96kbps = 7 hours: 55 minutes " " 112kbps = 6 hours: 47 minutes " " 128kbps = 5 hours: 56 minutes " " 160kbps = 4 hours: 45 minutes " " 192kbps = 3 hours: 92 minutes " " 224kbps = 3 hours: 23 minutes " " 256kbps = 2 hours: 58 minutes " " 320kbps = 2 hours: 22 minutes Last edited by Mark A. Foley; August 28th, 2005 at 08:15 AM.

August 17th, 2005, 09:26 PM	#2
Jack Smith Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: ontario Posts: 445	I dont use a Mac however the iRivers are supported.You would tranfer the audio from the iRiver via USB using the iRiver manager.then convert the file (.rec) to mp3.I think you can also convert to another format( not sure which one) Then import it intoFCP .maybe someone with a Mac can chime in.

August 18th, 2005, 04:57 AM	#3
Brett Whited Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 91	David- I have an iRiver 790 (256MB) and a Mac. I use Final Cut Express however, the import process is the same. You do have to use the iRiver manager, it won't let you import any other way. Just import it (it will be an mp3), then you can drag it into iTunes and convert it to an AIFF file for FCP. It's that simple. The iRiver takes very nice recording. Look into getting a Giant Squid iRiver Mic. -Brett

August 18th, 2005, 06:29 AM	#5
Brett Whited Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 91	Haha, sorry if this sounds rude...but how can you not have iTunes if you have a Mac??? It comes standard on every Mac. If you don't have it, download it from Apple's site. You can also use Quicktime Pro to convert mp3 (or any other file format) to AIFF's. I don't have it, but that's what I've heard anyway. But whenever you get iTunes, you'll have to go to the "Importing" tab and change the file format to AIFF, drag the recorded file into iTunes, right click (or control click) on it and select "Convert selection to AIFF". After that you can go to FCP and find the file, import it and that's it. It's fairly simple. Hope all that helps.... -Brett

August 28th, 2005, 10:17 PM	#8
Jack Smith Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: ontario Posts: 445	All very good info.Mark , your times are different than my experience and not sure how you obtained them.Do you have other audio files taking up some space?Example is 1gb unit at 44k 320kbps= over 7 hours