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Jon Turner · August 12th, 2005, 04:07 AM

I've been running around the internet trying to find a source of information on the following, but have found nothing.

I would like to know if the Audio Technica AT4073 hypercardioid shotgun mic is the same as the AT4900a-48 (electronics/body component) and AT4053a-EL (hypercardioid element) combined.

The latter is a modular set-up where you can change the capsules for different pickup patterns (omni, cardioid, hyper-), and is the option I would prefer - interchangeable cardioid and hypercardioid as opposed to the fixed (can you confirm this?!) AT4073.

If it is not the same microphone, is the AT4073 superior? I would consider paying extra for a dedicated hypercardioid.

Stephen Finton · August 12th, 2005, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Turner

I've been running around the internet trying to find a source of information on the following, but have found nothing.

I would like to know if the Audio Technica AT4073 hypercardioid shotgun mic is the same as the AT4900a-48 (electronics/body component) and AT4053a-EL (hypercardioid element) combined.

The latter is a modular set-up where you can change the capsules for different pickup patterns (omni, cardioid, hyper-), and is the option I would prefer - interchangeable cardioid and hypercardioid as opposed to the fixed (can you confirm this?!) AT4073.

If it is not the same microphone, is the AT4073 superior? I would consider paying extra for a dedicated hypercardioid.

Though interchangable capsules sounds like a good idea, any time you add an extra connection, you risk having a bad connection. I'd go the route of getting the dedicated mic.

Matthew Wilson · August 13th, 2005, 02:35 AM

Hi Jon,
I've got a 4073a and a couple of 4053a's and they are definitely not the same. The 4073a is a true short shotgun with a longer reach and narrower pickup than the 4053a. It's a little hotter as well also sounds more like a shotgun on interiors and therefore not as good as the 4053a, which is a real hyper. I've got a 4051a capsule as well. I like the modular setup and have come to really like and depend upon both the 4071a and the 4053a. In the right interior space, they cut together well, but they do sound different. If you had to buy only one, I would get the 4073a since you can use it outdoors as a shotgun and it really sounds great and you can use it indoors in the right conditions and it will sound very good. That being said, I started that way and am very pleased that I also got the 4053a because it sounds better in small interiors, which I'm doing a lot of. I bought a pair because they are also great for stereo recording as well. Oh yeah, if you are looking for the 4053a, I saw some B-stock somewhere on the web for around $300, which I think is a killer deal.
Hope that helps.
Matt

Dave Largent · August 14th, 2005, 08:09 AM

In what interior conditions does the 4073 work out
okay?

Matthew Wilson · August 14th, 2005, 02:37 PM

I think it works well in low echo rooms with lots of carpet and sound absorbing material. Like all shotguns, it isn't good in rooms with a lot of reflective surfaces, or very small rooms due to the echo. I've achieved good results in open living rooms or family room-type settings with carpted floors. Getting the mic within a foot or two of the source makes a big difference as well. Of course, if you can get it that close, a hyper probably still sounds a little better.

Ty Ford · August 17th, 2005, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Largent

In what interior conditions does the 4073 work out
okay?

On a properly treated sound stage or damped acoustic environment. In most interiors, shotguns are a bad choice.

Look in the video folder on my online archives for the 20MB tutorial .mp4 video about mic choices. enjoy.

Ty Ford

Henry Cho · August 17th, 2005, 11:01 PM

man, the schoeps sounds good.

thanks for the video ty.

Jeff Milligan · August 17th, 2005, 11:41 PM

I agree with the positive comments about the 4073a. I have had great results using the 4073a on a pole for interiors unless they are enclosed areas or small rooms. You will get echo or hollow sounding audio with the 4073a and medium shotguns in enclosed areas. I use the 4051a in these situations. You have to work it closer in about 2 feet and watch that it doesn't get in the frame. It is a small mike. The 4051a is a great 2 person dialogue mike to avoid echo. The 4051a was used to record the 2 person dialogue shots in the X Files series.

Dave Largent · August 18th, 2005, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Milligan

The 4051a was used to record the 2 person dialogue shots in the X Files series.

Wonder why they used the 4051 cardioid instead of
the 4053 hypercardioid?

Ty Ford · August 18th, 2005, 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henry Cho

man, the schoeps sounds good.

thanks for the video ty.

No Prob, Henry. And in one part of that video, I got the Schoeps a little too close and was pushing the record level a bit too hard. There were a few mini splats due to the fact that I was concentrating more on what I was saying than twiddling the knobs on the mixer.

Regards,

Ty

August 12th, 2005, 04:07 AM	#1
Jon Turner Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: England Posts: 69	Audio Technica Models I've been running around the internet trying to find a source of information on the following, but have found nothing. I would like to know if the Audio Technica AT4073 hypercardioid shotgun mic is the same as the AT4900a-48 (electronics/body component) and AT4053a-EL (hypercardioid element) combined. The latter is a modular set-up where you can change the capsules for different pickup patterns (omni, cardioid, hyper-), and is the option I would prefer - interchangeable cardioid and hypercardioid as opposed to the fixed (can you confirm this?!) AT4073. If it is not the same microphone, is the AT4073 superior? I would consider paying extra for a dedicated hypercardioid.

August 13th, 2005, 02:35 AM	#3
Matthew Wilson Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 259	Hi Jon, I've got a 4073a and a couple of 4053a's and they are definitely not the same. The 4073a is a true short shotgun with a longer reach and narrower pickup than the 4053a. It's a little hotter as well also sounds more like a shotgun on interiors and therefore not as good as the 4053a, which is a real hyper. I've got a 4051a capsule as well. I like the modular setup and have come to really like and depend upon both the 4071a and the 4053a. In the right interior space, they cut together well, but they do sound different. If you had to buy only one, I would get the 4073a since you can use it outdoors as a shotgun and it really sounds great and you can use it indoors in the right conditions and it will sound very good. That being said, I started that way and am very pleased that I also got the 4053a because it sounds better in small interiors, which I'm doing a lot of. I bought a pair because they are also great for stereo recording as well. Oh yeah, if you are looking for the 4053a, I saw some B-stock somewhere on the web for around $300, which I think is a killer deal. Hope that helps. Matt __________________ MW

August 14th, 2005, 02:37 PM	#5
Matthew Wilson Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 259	I think it works well in low echo rooms with lots of carpet and sound absorbing material. Like all shotguns, it isn't good in rooms with a lot of reflective surfaces, or very small rooms due to the echo. I've achieved good results in open living rooms or family room-type settings with carpted floors. Getting the mic within a foot or two of the source makes a big difference as well. Of course, if you can get it that close, a hyper probably still sounds a little better. __________________ MW

August 17th, 2005, 11:41 PM	#8
Jeff Milligan Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Keizer, Oregon Posts: 26	4073A & 4051a I agree with the positive comments about the 4073a. I have had great results using the 4073a on a pole for interiors unless they are enclosed areas or small rooms. You will get echo or hollow sounding audio with the 4073a and medium shotguns in enclosed areas. I use the 4051a in these situations. You have to work it closer in about 2 feet and watch that it doesn't get in the frame. It is a small mike. The 4051a is a great 2 person dialogue mike to avoid echo. The 4051a was used to record the 2 person dialogue shots in the X Files series. Last edited by Jeff Milligan; August 17th, 2005 at 11:44 PM. Reason: Add more information

August 14th, 2005, 08:09 AM	#4
Dave Largent Trustee Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,483	In what interior conditions does the 4073 work out okay?

August 17th, 2005, 11:01 PM	#7
Henry Cho Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 516	man, the schoeps sounds good. thanks for the video ty.