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June 21st, 2010, 09:43 AM | #1 |
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Indoor Mic for $500? Is it needed?
Getting ready for a production and am looking at adding to my equipment. My last feature, I worked solely with the Sennheiser MKH416P48. Now, I'm alright working with just the Senn, but this next feature is going to involve a lot of indoor conversations, and it's been recommend to me that I look into super cardiod mics for those indoor situations. I don't have a bunch of cash to spend, and really, if the Senn 416 will work, I'll stick with it, but if there's a mic I can add to my collection that'll really shine indoors, I'm very interested in hearing suggestions. I'm not against a battery powered mic, but I do have the capability to phantom power. If there's something you suggest under $500, that'd be great!
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June 21st, 2010, 10:32 AM | #2 |
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Under $500 USD.. I like the AT-4053 and the Audix SCX1.
A 'Russian' Oktava 012 is a slightly lower cost option and a nice mic, but they are not all created equal. Quality control is an issue and getting one that's tested, tweaked and evaluated, costs about $100 more than an 'off the self' import. "Do ya feel lucky" I'm not even addressing the Chinese counterfeits. |
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I've been investigating this myself. But I have no experience yet -- just research. There seem to be a couple of ENG favorites for interviews. The Sennheiser - MD46 - Dynamic ENG Microphone - MD46 - B&H Photo is often a go-to mic. for man-in-the-street type interviews even in very noisy environments. The Electro Voice - RE50N/D-B - N/DYM Dynamic Omni Mic - 16502345 - seems to be another favorite for perhaps less noisy environments. Both mics. have their partisans.
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In the under $500 range, the Okatava 012 seems to be a favorite. However, I'm with Rick on this one. I'd also vote for the Audio Technica 4053, less handling noise, consistent quality.
You might also be interested in some of the content on the DVD "Sound for Film and Television" where you can hear the Oktava, AKG and a few other mics indoors YouTube - Sound for Film and Television Instructional DVD from Barry Green and WBS For more money, I'd probably be looking at a Sennheiser 8050. You can hear the 416 (shotgun) vs the 8050 (super cardioid) below. Sennheiser MKH416 Sennheiser MKH8050 Last edited by Guy Cochran; June 23rd, 2010 at 10:34 AM. |
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Thanks everyone, I really appreciate your thoughts. I've actually seen those videos, and as an educator here on campus, I've shown them to my class to demonstrate pickup patterns of cardiod, super, and a standard shotgun.
Anyway, I think for my use, the Audio Technica 4053 looks to be just about what I'm going to need. I appreciate the help. Now, of course, I imagine that it'll have the same problem with my T2i, and the AGC; I'll go through the new BeachTek box to use the kill switch, should make this mic sound pretty sharp for the price.
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I'm a little confused as to the difference between the Audio-Technica AT4053a and Audio-Technica AT4053b. Seems to sell on B&H for $599. Is that the mic you're talking about?
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The 4053a is considered discontinued but can still be found at some sources for a lower price. The 4053b is the current model. I believe the only difference is RoHS-compliance regarding hazardous substances used in manufacture of the mic as well as improved RF interference prevention against cellphones.
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June 23rd, 2010, 12:27 PM | #13 |
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The Tascam DR100 has a built in lithium ion battery, plus you can use AA's.
There is battery level indicators in the "info" section. So you will not be caught off guard. The Tascam also has a LINE level out *plus* headphone out. Now you can monitor the audio being recorded and have faith in it. You can use a DVcreators Line to Mic Cable out of the Tascam to feed a guide track into the DSLR. You also have the safety of great limiters and meters with the Tascam. Here is what the DR100 sounds like indoors with a shotgun mic. |
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I don't recall Brian stating as to how the mic will be used, If this will be a 'camera mounted' mic, don't expect much more than surveillance audio no matter what the cost. An inexperienced boom op is also a recipe for disaster.
That said, factor in the cost of a shock mount and a slip-on foam windscreen, A foamy will most likely be necessary in many indoor situations when you or the subject is moving about. |
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