Drivers for Iriver 790-890? at DVinfo.net

Ian VanCattenburch · June 9th, 2010, 12:07 AM

Are there any drivers for Vista 64 for these old Irivers? I still love using these little guys but can't seem to find drivers for new OS

Gerald Labrador · June 10th, 2010, 12:33 PM

I ran into the same problem when I went to Windows 7. iRiver program installed but still couldn't recognize the iRiver once it was plugged in.

the next simplicity_iriver

But luckily I had the iRiver music manager app on my Macbook also, so thats how I was able to update mine. Now Windows 7 just recognizes it like a usb drive and the audio is automatically mp3 (no more converting).

Renton Maclachlan · June 10th, 2010, 01:42 PM

Gerald

So what precisely did you do?

(I see some Feb 2007 drivers for the 700 and 800 series on page 6 of the link you gave.)

Renton

Dave Blackhurst · June 10th, 2010, 03:17 PM

There are two types of firmware for the iRiver - one a proprietary format, and one a "UMS" (universal mass storage), you update the firmware, the two versions are interchangeable (they erase the "data" files IIRC though, so you have to keep your files on the computer).

If you use the UMS, it's like any other USB device so W7 can "see" it as a drive. You may want to double check noise levels, as I noticed more background noise when recording w/UMS firmware.

Jaime Espiritu · October 29th, 2010, 09:01 AM

The iriver site isn't working right now. It's got viruses. Does anyone know what other sites I can get the Music Manager? I upgraded to Windows 7 from XP.

I no longer have the old iriver music manager to pull off my vows from my wedding project.

Help!!

Thanks in advance.

Gerald Labrador · October 29th, 2010, 09:50 AM

I know what you're going through.
I got another iRiver and lost all the previous drivers too.
Found this:
Iriver iFP-880/890/895/899 Firmware v 1.95 - TechSpot Drivers

Jaime Espiritu · October 29th, 2010, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerald Labrador

I know what you're going through.
I got another iRiver and lost all the previous drivers too.
Found this:
Iriver iFP-880/890/895/899 Firmware v 1.95 - TechSpot Drivers

Thanks, Gerald.

I actually need the Music Manager softtware because Windows 7 doesn't see the device. Iriver's Music Manager will see ifp-895 in order to do firmware update.

I have vows on the unit and I don't want it erased or I'm toast!

Dave Blackhurst · October 29th, 2010, 10:45 PM

I have the MM software here, but as near as I can recall, the drivers don't work in W7, and when the drivers don't work, the MM software still can't "see" the iRiver, so just having MM won't "help". I've just used an older machine here with XP to download, then transfer the files - sometimes having EOL computers around is handy! Once flashed to MP3 firmware, they show up like regular USB drives.

PM me if you need to get a copy of MM, I'll dig it up and either upload it to my website and send a link, or just email it to you.

Vito DeFilippo · October 30th, 2010, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Blackhurst

Once flashed to MP3 firmware, they show up like regular USB drives.

Remember that flashing these models with the UMS firmware limits max recording bitrate to 96Kbps. Not very good compared to the usual 160Kbps (which is already not great).

Using an XP machine is probably the best option.

Matt Barwick · October 31st, 2010, 08:20 PM

Jaime - try here:

(2) iriver_Music_Manager_V321_sp.zip - 4shared.com - online file sharing and storage - download

or here:

iriver_Music_Manager_V321_sp.zip

but like Dave said I doubt they're going to work on Win 7.

I use an XP machine to get my files off. Why iriver crippled these great devices like this by forcing the use of this software I don't know :(

Good luck.

Dave Blackhurst · November 1st, 2010, 12:54 AM

As Vito noted, it was probably to achieve a higher bitrate than "regular" MP3...

I would suppose it would be possible to code new drivers that would work in W7, which IIRC is the "weak link", but iRiver likely won't do anything on "old" technology...

Jaime Espiritu · November 5th, 2010, 09:13 PM

Thanks everyone for your help. I found a laptop computer that has XP and now I can convert my files to my heart's content. I learned an important lesson while upgrading operating systems...

Renton Maclachlan · November 5th, 2010, 10:53 PM

I understand Win7 has an XP mode. Would the iriver program run on it?

Jaime Espiritu · November 6th, 2010, 08:34 AM

I have Windows 7 Home Premium. That's what got me into trouble. No XP emulation features.

Dave Blackhurst · November 6th, 2010, 12:12 PM

Somehow i think I saw SOME XP emulation features (running W7 Home) for one program I was trying to get running, they didn't seem to help, had to get a new/different build from the manufacturer to solve the problem. Didn't think to try emulation mode for the iRiver MM software, I took it from the error message that it was the DRIVER that was no longer accepted, and just presumed it was not fixable without a newer version driver (which I don't expect to see from iRiver...).

May have to revisit this, I've just been using one of the XP machines I have at my disposal to work with iRiver files, but it would be nice to get it working in W7... I've managed to get several programs functioning that were supposedly entirely incompatible...

And yes, one has to consider when "upgrading" whether all the "favorite" programs that NEED to run will work on the new platform. I still wish the old Descent games would be ported, they were fun, pretty sure my kids would have a blast with them, but support stopped at W98SE/ME... and there are a few other programs I've "lost" along the OS upgrade path, most of which I never miss...

June 9th, 2010, 12:07 AM	#1
Ian VanCattenburch Regular Crew Join Date: May 2008 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 50	Drivers for Iriver 790-890? Are there any drivers for Vista 64 for these old Irivers? I still love using these little guys but can't seem to find drivers for new OS

October 29th, 2010, 09:01 AM	#5
Jaime Espiritu Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: San Francisco CA Posts: 154	Iriver 895 driver for Windows 7 The iriver site isn't working right now. It's got viruses. Does anyone know what other sites I can get the Music Manager? I upgraded to Windows 7 from XP. I no longer have the old iriver music manager to pull off my vows from my wedding project. Help!! Thanks in advance. __________________ Creative Video. Excellent Service

October 31st, 2010, 08:20 PM	#10
Matt Barwick Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Kingscliff, Australia Posts: 196	Jaime - try here: (2) iriver_Music_Manager_V321_sp.zip - 4shared.com - online file sharing and storage - download or here: iriver_Music_Manager_V321_sp.zip but like Dave said I doubt they're going to work on Win 7. I use an XP machine to get my files off. Why iriver crippled these great devices like this by forcing the use of this software I don't know :( Good luck. __________________ www.mattbarwickfilms.com / wedding videos gold coast / my stuff on Vimeo

November 5th, 2010, 09:13 PM	#12
Jaime Espiritu Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: San Francisco CA Posts: 154	Iriver 895 driver for Windows 7 Thanks everyone for your help. I found a laptop computer that has XP and now I can convert my files to my heart's content. I learned an important lesson while upgrading operating systems... __________________ Creative Video. Excellent Service Last edited by Jaime Espiritu; November 5th, 2010 at 09:13 PM. Reason: grammar

November 6th, 2010, 08:34 AM	#14
Jaime Espiritu Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: San Francisco CA Posts: 154	Iriver 895 driver for Windows 7 I have Windows 7 Home Premium. That's what got me into trouble. No XP emulation features. __________________ Creative Video. Excellent Service

June 10th, 2010, 12:33 PM	#2
Gerald Labrador Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 55	I ran into the same problem when I went to Windows 7. iRiver program installed but still couldn't recognize the iRiver once it was plugged in. the next simplicity_iriver But luckily I had the iRiver music manager app on my Macbook also, so thats how I was able to update mine. Now Windows 7 just recognizes it like a usb drive and the audio is automatically mp3 (no more converting).

June 10th, 2010, 01:42 PM	#3
Renton Maclachlan Trustee Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,180	Gerald So what precisely did you do? (I see some Feb 2007 drivers for the 700 and 800 series on page 6 of the link you gave.) Renton

June 10th, 2010, 03:17 PM	#4
Dave Blackhurst Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Apple Valley CA Posts: 4,874	There are two types of firmware for the iRiver - one a proprietary format, and one a "UMS" (universal mass storage), you update the firmware, the two versions are interchangeable (they erase the "data" files IIRC though, so you have to keep your files on the computer). If you use the UMS, it's like any other USB device so W7 can "see" it as a drive. You may want to double check noise levels, as I noticed more background noise when recording w/UMS firmware.

October 29th, 2010, 09:50 AM	#6
Gerald Labrador Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 55	I know what you're going through. I got another iRiver and lost all the previous drivers too. Found this: Iriver iFP-880/890/895/899 Firmware v 1.95 - TechSpot Drivers

October 29th, 2010, 10:45 PM	#8
Dave Blackhurst Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Apple Valley CA Posts: 4,874	I have the MM software here, but as near as I can recall, the drivers don't work in W7, and when the drivers don't work, the MM software still can't "see" the iRiver, so just having MM won't "help". I've just used an older machine here with XP to download, then transfer the files - sometimes having EOL computers around is handy! Once flashed to MP3 firmware, they show up like regular USB drives. PM me if you need to get a copy of MM, I'll dig it up and either upload it to my website and send a link, or just email it to you.

November 1st, 2010, 12:54 AM	#11
Dave Blackhurst Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Apple Valley CA Posts: 4,874	As Vito noted, it was probably to achieve a higher bitrate than "regular" MP3... I would suppose it would be possible to code new drivers that would work in W7, which IIRC is the "weak link", but iRiver likely won't do anything on "old" technology...

November 5th, 2010, 10:53 PM	#13
Renton Maclachlan Trustee Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,180	I understand Win7 has an XP mode. Would the iriver program run on it?

November 6th, 2010, 12:12 PM	#15
Dave Blackhurst Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Apple Valley CA Posts: 4,874	Somehow i think I saw SOME XP emulation features (running W7 Home) for one program I was trying to get running, they didn't seem to help, had to get a new/different build from the manufacturer to solve the problem. Didn't think to try emulation mode for the iRiver MM software, I took it from the error message that it was the DRIVER that was no longer accepted, and just presumed it was not fixable without a newer version driver (which I don't expect to see from iRiver...). May have to revisit this, I've just been using one of the XP machines I have at my disposal to work with iRiver files, but it would be nice to get it working in W7... I've managed to get several programs functioning that were supposedly entirely incompatible... And yes, one has to consider when "upgrading" whether all the "favorite" programs that NEED to run will work on the new platform. I still wish the old Descent games would be ported, they were fun, pretty sure my kids would have a blast with them, but support stopped at W98SE/ME... and there are a few other programs I've "lost" along the OS upgrade path, most of which I never miss...