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Colin McDonald · April 28th, 2010, 12:15 PM

I'm actually quite sorry for British Prime Minister Gordon Brown who was caught out today in the classic radiomic gotcha - he forgot he was wearing it. He also forgot what merciless b******s the media are.

BBC News - Gordon Brown 'mortified' by his 'bigoted woman' slur

What radiomic system were they using? I think we should be told. I want one!!

Paul R Johnson · April 28th, 2010, 12:38 PM

The thing was, why was he driving off with the BBC's mic still attached - was he stealing it? I bet he won't agree to having one pinned on again. Probably sounded like a good idea when he thought it would let the BBC get better quality audio of his mumbles. I wonder when they got the pack back?

Andy Wilkinson · April 28th, 2010, 01:24 PM

This reminds me of a corporate shoot last year when the manager I was interviewing went off to the loo...(that's the restroom to you lot over the pond) with my Senny G2 still attached...yep, you've guessed it, still live. When I heard the cubicle door closed and realised it was going to be a "No 2" I decided to take my cans off....

It was funny watching the media squabble as to whose radiomic it was on Brown (I think Sky News claimed claimed ownership, not the BBC) but no matter. If the camera never lies.... what do radiomics do? Well this shows they sure can screw things up big time for the unwary!

Richard Gooderick · April 28th, 2010, 01:39 PM

Apparently it was his lot that insisted on a radio mic instead of a boom.
I also understand that BBC, ITN and Sky all share the same feed from the one mic.

Rick Reineke · April 28th, 2010, 02:16 PM

I'll 'usually' remind folks about the first Leslie Nielsen "Naked Gun" movie if they decide to go walkabout when an audience & PA system is involved. It's good for a laugh and the point is remembered.

Brian Drysdale · April 28th, 2010, 02:37 PM

There are quite a few top politicians and radio mics stories, most are usually amusing, like the loo story. Indeed, this seems to be the most common, although one realised he was still connected and a hand was seen handing back the radio mic through the loo door.

Jim Andrada · April 28th, 2010, 06:40 PM

Well, I never had this problem when recording but I have had it as the speaker with the mic attached.

I was presenting to a few hundred sales reps and customers in Australia many years back and made a short stop before my turn on stage. Of course, I was already miced and...

Got a great round of applause when I got back and walked on stage. At least I had their undivided attention for a few minutes.

Andrew Smith · April 29th, 2010, 12:04 AM

Must have been the relief aspect that they could really identify with. LOL! I can only imagine how you might have recovered from that one!

Andrew

Liam Hall · April 29th, 2010, 01:31 AM

Having worked at the sharp end of the last General Election I can assure you all that what he said was nothing compared to many things I heard on a daily basis.

Indeed, I must admit I felt a little sorry for Gordon Brown, but he only has himself to blame; the media were there because he brought them, he was wearing a radio mic because he wanted one.

It could have been worse; if he did what Sue Lawley famously did whilst wearing a radio mic - he would have had to resign immediately!

Allan Black · April 29th, 2010, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Andrada

Well, I never had this problem when recording but I have had it as the speaker with the mic attached.

I was presenting to a few hundred sales reps and customers in Australia many years back and made a short stop before my turn on stage. Of course, I was already miced and...

Got a great round of applause when I got back and walked on stage. At least I had their undivided attention for a few minutes.

A few minutes!! they still talk about you here Jim .. we all contributed to the brass plaque that's nailed to the door. There's tours, souvenirs and everything.

Sorry Col .. just surprised Jim hasn't heard about it.

Cheers.

Andrew Smith · April 29th, 2010, 03:50 AM

Liam,

A quick Wiki-research on Sue Lawley reveals nothing regarding the microphone incident. Care to spill the beans?

Andrew

Liam Hall · April 29th, 2010, 04:07 AM

Not on a public internet forum!

I'll send you an email:)

Andrew Smith · April 29th, 2010, 04:09 AM

That good, eh?

Andrew

Brian Drysdale · April 29th, 2010, 06:19 AM

Quite a few inside the industry stories. I know someone who went into an unmanned TV studio (it uses a locked off camera) to have an "exchange" and noticing the TV camera draped his coat over the lens and continued. Indeed, engineering had been watching...

April 28th, 2010, 12:15 PM	#1
Colin McDonald Trustee Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 1,546	The perils of radiomics I'm actually quite sorry for British Prime Minister Gordon Brown who was caught out today in the classic radiomic gotcha - he forgot he was wearing it. He also forgot what merciless b******s the media are. BBC News - Gordon Brown 'mortified' by his 'bigoted woman' slur What radiomic system were they using? I think we should be told. I want one!!

April 28th, 2010, 01:24 PM	#3
Andy Wilkinson Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cambridge UK Posts: 2,853	This reminds me of a corporate shoot last year when the manager I was interviewing went off to the loo...(that's the restroom to you lot over the pond) with my Senny G2 still attached...yep, you've guessed it, still live. When I heard the cubicle door closed and realised it was going to be a "No 2" I decided to take my cans off.... It was funny watching the media squabble as to whose radiomic it was on Brown (I think Sky News claimed claimed ownership, not the BBC) but no matter. If the camera never lies.... what do radiomics do? Well this shows they sure can screw things up big time for the unwary! __________________ Andy K Wilkinson - https://www.shootingimage.co.uk Cambridge (UK) Corporate Video Production

April 28th, 2010, 01:39 PM	#4
Richard Gooderick Major Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: London, UK Posts: 795	Apparently it was his lot that insisted on a radio mic instead of a boom. I also understand that BBC, ITN and Sky all share the same feed from the one mic. __________________ http://www.gooderick.com

April 29th, 2010, 01:31 AM	#9
Liam Hall Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London, England Posts: 969	Having worked at the sharp end of the last General Election I can assure you all that what he said was nothing compared to many things I heard on a daily basis. Indeed, I must admit I felt a little sorry for Gordon Brown, but he only has himself to blame; the media were there because he brought them, he was wearing a radio mic because he wanted one. It could have been worse; if he did what Sue Lawley famously did whilst wearing a radio mic - he would have had to resign immediately! __________________ Writer-Director-DOP www.liamhall.net

April 29th, 2010, 04:07 AM	#12
Liam Hall Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London, England Posts: 969	Not on a public internet forum! I'll send you an email:) __________________ Writer-Director-DOP www.liamhall.net

April 28th, 2010, 12:38 PM	#2
Paul R Johnson Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lowestoft - UK Posts: 4,045	The thing was, why was he driving off with the BBC's mic still attached - was he stealing it? I bet he won't agree to having one pinned on again. Probably sounded like a good idea when he thought it would let the BBC get better quality audio of his mumbles. I wonder when they got the pack back?

April 28th, 2010, 02:16 PM	#5
Rick Reineke Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: New York Posts: 2,039	I'll 'usually' remind folks about the first Leslie Nielsen "Naked Gun" movie if they decide to go walkabout when an audience & PA system is involved. It's good for a laugh and the point is remembered.

April 28th, 2010, 02:37 PM	#6
Brian Drysdale Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belfast, UK Posts: 6,152	There are quite a few top politicians and radio mics stories, most are usually amusing, like the loo story. Indeed, this seems to be the most common, although one realised he was still connected and a hand was seen handing back the radio mic through the loo door.

April 28th, 2010, 06:40 PM	#7
Jim Andrada Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 2,211	Well, I never had this problem when recording but I have had it as the speaker with the mic attached. I was presenting to a few hundred sales reps and customers in Australia many years back and made a short stop before my turn on stage. Of course, I was already miced and... Got a great round of applause when I got back and walked on stage. At least I had their undivided attention for a few minutes.

April 29th, 2010, 12:04 AM	#8
Andrew Smith Equal Opportunity Offender Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 3,065	Must have been the relief aspect that they could really identify with. LOL! I can only imagine how you might have recovered from that one! Andrew

April 29th, 2010, 03:50 AM	#11
Andrew Smith Equal Opportunity Offender Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 3,065	Liam, A quick Wiki-research on Sue Lawley reveals nothing regarding the microphone incident. Care to spill the beans? Andrew

April 29th, 2010, 04:09 AM	#13
Andrew Smith Equal Opportunity Offender Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 3,065	That good, eh? Andrew

April 29th, 2010, 06:19 AM	#14
Brian Drysdale Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belfast, UK Posts: 6,152	Quite a few inside the industry stories. I know someone who went into an unmanned TV studio (it uses a locked off camera) to have an "exchange" and noticing the TV camera draped his coat over the lens and continued. Indeed, engineering had been watching...