Headphones

Brian Handler · July 5th, 2005, 07:00 AM

Hey everyone

I quickly realized that my old Sony headphones aren't going to cut it for 12hr editing sessions. I need headphones that have a fine match of quality sound and longterm comfort, as well as keeping external things quiet. I'll be using them typically on my NLE but also for monitor sound on my gs120 and pd100.

Thanks!

Bob Costa · July 5th, 2005, 08:31 AM

Try here for some really good info on headphones.

Brian Handler · July 5th, 2005, 08:46 AM

[edited by moderator for language]

I searched before I did this. I don't feel like crawling through 4 pages of return results for 200 posts telling me to use headphones for every shoot...I know that. I want brands and models.

[edited by moderator for language]

Richard Alvarez · July 5th, 2005, 09:08 AM

Moderate price, good response, comfortable fit.

Sony MDR-V600 - about $90 to $100

There, your question is answered and you don't have to look at this thread any longer. No decisions to make. Job done.

Douglas Spotted Eagle · July 5th, 2005, 09:31 AM

The industry standard is the Sony MDR 7506, not the best nor worst sounding headphone, but is practically bulletpruf, and they are exceptionally common.
Around 95.00 most places.

Brian Handler · July 5th, 2005, 10:04 AM

Thanks guys lol

That moderator really murdered my last post...hehe I come off as more of a jerk than I would have otherwise.

Dave Largent · July 6th, 2005, 04:31 AM

The 7506s don't give much isolation, if that matters
to you.

Glenn Chan · July 6th, 2005, 07:59 AM

Sony MDR-V6 is the "consumer" version of the 7506s. You can get them at a cheaper price, and they are practically the same thing from what I've heard.

They are a little hard to find... try eBay and froogle.com. (new ones)

Brian Handler · July 6th, 2005, 09:30 AM

Isolation is somewhat of a concern, my office is adjacent to a media viewing room which occasionaly gets loud.

All of the models you guys have listed look good, but really similar. Is there one I should get over another?

Thanks again

David Ennis · July 6th, 2005, 10:46 AM

For isolation you can't beat these. My venues usually place me at the backs of theaters out in the open. These are like like good earplugs (-35 dB) that happen to have little hi fi speakers built in. Comfy enough that my biggest problem is that I forget they're there and try to walk away while I'm still plugged in.

http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/er6.aspx

But don't pay $139. Google search should turn them up at $100 or less.

Dave Largent · July 6th, 2005, 11:33 AM

Realistically, who wants to wear ear plugs. I bet not
many. Everyone is looking for good headphones to
cover the whole deal.

Brian Handler · July 6th, 2005, 11:42 AM

Thats not a bad idea though.

I'll throw in an IFB in both my ears and wear them for a 3-4 hrs to see if it causes discomfort.

Does it come with multiple sized ear pieces?

David Ennis · July 6th, 2005, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Largent

Realistically, who wants to wear ear plugs. I bet not
many. Everyone is looking for good headphones to
cover the whole deal.

To get this kind of performance they'll be looking for a long time. Meanwhile, if they still want to look cool, they can wear the Sonys over these :)

David Ennis · July 6th, 2005, 11:52 AM

Seriously, I'll have to admit I haven't used them for more than 2 hours at a time, but they didn't bother me.

Brian, they don't come with multiple size ear pieces, but the ear diaphrams are very soft and shaped to seal with minimal pressure.

Here's a quote from DSE:

"I carry 2 kinds of headphones with me most places.
My trusty, standard Sony 7506
My Etymotics ER 6's.

7506 is a great benchmarking headphone that most engineers in the world are familiar with. Not the best, not the worst, but by far and wide the most common. They are a semi-closed phone with great sound.

The Etymotic are a electret transducer that goes in-ear. Fabulous sound, nearly the best sound I've ever heard. Deep, rich bass that comes from being in contact with your body, these are labeled the "most accurate headphone in the world." I don't know about that, but I love them. I've premastered audio on them and found them to be darn near perfect."

But I also recall that Doug warns about rapid sensory fatigue from any headphones and against using anything but high quality studio monitor speakers for final edits. I'm surprised that he didn't react to Brian's phrase "12hr editing sessions" in the initial post.

Brian Handler · July 6th, 2005, 12:28 PM

Hey well thats something, i could buy both haha.

I wish I had the money to get a good studio monitor setup. I could piece together something that could sound really good and just get 75w crown rack amp to power it...but for now my computer speakers are fairly accurate.

My problem is I edit in an office with writers, and at home i edit late into the night and my 'old lady' doesn't find the sounds of jogging much fun.

Back in the day I remember having problems with oversized inner-ear pieces, but if they are as comfortable as you say I'll belive you. I have a set of clearcom IFB's sitting around and the ear piece is fitted for me so if I can handle that for a few hours then I think I'll be good to go on those as well.

Everyone, Thank you.

July 5th, 2005, 07:00 AM	#1
Brian Handler Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Muncie Indiana Posts: 118	Headphones - What are you using? Hey everyone I quickly realized that my old Sony headphones aren't going to cut it for 12hr editing sessions. I need headphones that have a fine match of quality sound and longterm comfort, as well as keeping external things quiet. I'll be using them typically on my NLE but also for monitor sound on my gs120 and pd100. Thanks! __________________ Email me for projects in Ohio or Indiana. Lighting > Everything.

July 5th, 2005, 08:31 AM	#2
Bob Costa Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Venice, FL Posts: 850	Try here for some really good info on headphones. __________________ You are either growing or dying.

July 5th, 2005, 08:46 AM	#3
Brian Handler Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Muncie Indiana Posts: 118	[edited by moderator for language] I searched before I did this. I don't feel like crawling through 4 pages of return results for 200 posts telling me to use headphones for every shoot...I know that. I want brands and models. [edited by moderator for language] __________________ Email me for projects in Ohio or Indiana. Lighting > Everything.

July 5th, 2005, 09:31 AM	#5
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	The industry standard is the Sony MDR 7506, not the best nor worst sounding headphone, but is practically bulletpruf, and they are exceptionally common. Around 95.00 most places. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

July 5th, 2005, 10:04 AM	#6
Brian Handler Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Muncie Indiana Posts: 118	Thanks guys lol That moderator really murdered my last post...hehe I come off as more of a jerk than I would have otherwise. __________________ Email me for projects in Ohio or Indiana. Lighting > Everything. Last edited by Brian Handler; July 5th, 2005 at 01:34 PM.

July 5th, 2005, 09:08 AM	#4
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	Moderate price, good response, comfortable fit. Sony MDR-V600 - about $90 to $100 There, your question is answered and you don't have to look at this thread any longer. No decisions to make. Job done.

July 6th, 2005, 04:31 AM	#7
Dave Largent Trustee Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,483	The 7506s don't give much isolation, if that matters to you.

July 6th, 2005, 07:59 AM	#8
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	Sony MDR-V6 is the "consumer" version of the 7506s. You can get them at a cheaper price, and they are practically the same thing from what I've heard. They are a little hard to find... try eBay and froogle.com. (new ones)

July 6th, 2005, 09:30 AM	#9
Brian Handler Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Muncie Indiana Posts: 118	Isolation is somewhat of a concern, my office is adjacent to a media viewing room which occasionaly gets loud. All of the models you guys have listed look good, but really similar. Is there one I should get over another? Thanks again __________________ Email me for projects in Ohio or Indiana. Lighting > Everything.

July 6th, 2005, 10:46 AM	#10
David Ennis Fred Retread Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Hartford, CT Posts: 1,227	For isolation you can't beat these. My venues usually place me at the backs of theaters out in the open. These are like like good earplugs (-35 dB) that happen to have little hi fi speakers built in. Comfy enough that my biggest problem is that I forget they're there and try to walk away while I'm still plugged in. http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/er6.aspx But don't pay $139. Google search should turn them up at $100 or less. __________________ "Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence..." - Calvin Coolidge "My brain is wired to want to know how other things are wired." - Me Last edited by David Ennis; July 6th, 2005 at 11:03 AM.

July 6th, 2005, 11:33 AM	#11
Dave Largent Trustee Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,483	Realistically, who wants to wear ear plugs. I bet not many. Everyone is looking for good headphones to cover the whole deal.

July 6th, 2005, 11:42 AM	#12
Brian Handler Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Muncie Indiana Posts: 118	Thats not a bad idea though. I'll throw in an IFB in both my ears and wear them for a 3-4 hrs to see if it causes discomfort. Does it come with multiple sized ear pieces? __________________ Email me for projects in Ohio or Indiana. Lighting > Everything.

July 6th, 2005, 11:52 AM	#14
David Ennis Fred Retread Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Hartford, CT Posts: 1,227	Seriously, I'll have to admit I haven't used them for more than 2 hours at a time, but they didn't bother me. Brian, they don't come with multiple size ear pieces, but the ear diaphrams are very soft and shaped to seal with minimal pressure. Here's a quote from DSE: "I carry 2 kinds of headphones with me most places. My trusty, standard Sony 7506 My Etymotics ER 6's. 7506 is a great benchmarking headphone that most engineers in the world are familiar with. Not the best, not the worst, but by far and wide the most common. They are a semi-closed phone with great sound. The Etymotic are a electret transducer that goes in-ear. Fabulous sound, nearly the best sound I've ever heard. Deep, rich bass that comes from being in contact with your body, these are labeled the "most accurate headphone in the world." I don't know about that, but I love them. I've premastered audio on them and found them to be darn near perfect." But I also recall that Doug warns about rapid sensory fatigue from any headphones and against using anything but high quality studio monitor speakers for final edits. I'm surprised that he didn't react to Brian's phrase "12hr editing sessions" in the initial post. __________________ "Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence..." - Calvin Coolidge "My brain is wired to want to know how other things are wired." - Me Last edited by David Ennis; July 6th, 2005 at 12:13 PM.

July 6th, 2005, 12:28 PM	#15
Brian Handler Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Muncie Indiana Posts: 118	Hey well thats something, i could buy both haha. I wish I had the money to get a good studio monitor setup. I could piece together something that could sound really good and just get 75w crown rack amp to power it...but for now my computer speakers are fairly accurate. My problem is I edit in an office with writers, and at home i edit late into the night and my 'old lady' doesn't find the sounds of jogging much fun. Back in the day I remember having problems with oversized inner-ear pieces, but if they are as comfortable as you say I'll belive you. I have a set of clearcom IFB's sitting around and the ear piece is fitted for me so if I can handle that for a few hours then I think I'll be good to go on those as well. Everyone, Thank you. __________________ Email me for projects in Ohio or Indiana. Lighting > Everything.