beachtek for a sony fx1 is good for a dslr camera? at DVinfo.net

Marcus Martell · January 13th, 2010, 01:50 PM

Hi guys, was wondering to buy a beachtek for a sony fx1.Iftomorrow i ll decide to buy a camera will i be able to use the beachtel with a dslr camera too?
Why audio is better through phantom?

thx

Chris Barcellos · January 13th, 2010, 02:28 PM

I can speak to the Canon 5D. The beachtek will work, but with autogain on, you can still have issues with noise from autogain. If you use Magic Lantern, you get control of the gain and adjust it manually. However, realistically, you should have a preamp powered unit feeding the 5D. The Juiced Link CX231 is the minimum you will need, to get clean sound.

Jon Fairhurst · January 13th, 2010, 04:10 PM

The Beachtek and the juicedLink will both work with the FX1 and a DvSLR (both accept 1/8" plugs with mic level inputs.) The difference between the BT and JL is that the juicedLink provides gain, so the audio will have much lower noise.

The juicedLink CX231 has phantom power. The CX211 does not. Phantom power is required by some microphones. For instance, the Rode NTG-1 requires phantom power. The NTG-2 accepts a battery, so phantom power is optional.

On a budget, you can get the CX211 and a microphone that accepts a battery. For long-term compatibility, I recommend the CX231.

Here are some tests that I did with the juicedLink and the Beachtek products and the Canon 5D Mark II:

Martin Doppelbauer · January 15th, 2010, 02:47 PM

I have just tested the Juicedlink CX231 and the results are outstanding. Very clear and practically noise free. Highly recommended over the passive beachtek.

William Wilson · January 18th, 2010, 03:58 AM

I have to add my vote for the Juiced Link as well. I have the CX-231 and love it! Virtually no noise from it.

Tom Hardwick · January 18th, 2010, 06:07 AM

Hi Marcus, audio isn't better through phantom - that's simply a convenient way of powering the electret condenser microphone. Audio is better through XLR (as against 1/8" plug)because it allows for long cable runs without interference pickup.

If you just wanted to use the FX1 XLR then I'd say the Beachtec would be fine - I was very happy with my VX2k wired like this years ago. But listen to the other voices here if you're seriously considering the vDSLR route.

tom.

Marcus Martell · February 1st, 2010, 05:06 AM

So guys u r convincting me to go 4 Juicedlink CX231, that i could use with a FX1 and a DSLR right?
How much does it cost in USA?I don't know where to get here in EU
thx guys

January 13th, 2010, 01:50 PM	#1
Marcus Martell Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: spain Posts: 1,202	beachtek for a sony fx1 is good for a dslr camera? Hi guys, was wondering to buy a beachtek for a sony fx1.Iftomorrow i ll decide to buy a camera will i be able to use the beachtel with a dslr camera too? Why audio is better through phantom? thx

January 13th, 2010, 02:28 PM	#2
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	I can speak to the Canon 5D. The beachtek will work, but with autogain on, you can still have issues with noise from autogain. If you use Magic Lantern, you get control of the gain and adjust it manually. However, realistically, you should have a preamp powered unit feeding the 5D. The Juiced Link CX231 is the minimum you will need, to get clean sound. __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

January 13th, 2010, 04:10 PM	#3
Jon Fairhurst Inner Circle Join Date: May 2006 Location: Camas, WA, USA Posts: 5,513	The Beachtek and the juicedLink will both work with the FX1 and a DvSLR (both accept 1/8" plugs with mic level inputs.) The difference between the BT and JL is that the juicedLink provides gain, so the audio will have much lower noise. The juicedLink CX231 has phantom power. The CX211 does not. Phantom power is required by some microphones. For instance, the Rode NTG-1 requires phantom power. The NTG-2 accepts a battery, so phantom power is optional. On a budget, you can get the CX211 and a microphone that accepts a battery. For long-term compatibility, I recommend the CX231. Here are some tests that I did with the juicedLink and the Beachtek products and the Canon 5D Mark II: 1. Canon 5D Mark II Audio Exposed - Boom Mic (juicedLink, Zoom H4n, Microtrack II, BeachTek) on Vimeo __________________ Jon Fairhurst

January 15th, 2010, 02:47 PM	#4
Martin Doppelbauer Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Karlsruhe, Germany Posts: 80	I have just tested the Juicedlink CX231 and the results are outstanding. Very clear and practically noise free. Highly recommended over the passive beachtek. __________________ Best regards, Martin <<< Visit my homepage: http://www.Martin-Doppelbauer.de >>>

January 18th, 2010, 03:58 AM	#5
William Wilson Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 69	I have to add my vote for the Juiced Link as well. I have the CX-231 and love it! Virtually no noise from it. __________________ Bill Wilson PK Productions ~ From Mild to Wild Las Vegas, NV

January 18th, 2010, 06:07 AM	#6
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	Hi Marcus, audio isn't better through phantom - that's simply a convenient way of powering the electret condenser microphone. Audio is better through XLR (as against 1/8" plug)because it allows for long cable runs without interference pickup. If you just wanted to use the FX1 XLR then I'd say the Beachtec would be fine - I was very happy with my VX2k wired like this years ago. But listen to the other voices here if you're seriously considering the vDSLR route. tom.

February 1st, 2010, 05:06 AM	#7
Marcus Martell Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: spain Posts: 1,202	So guys u r convincting me to go 4 Juicedlink CX231, that i could use with a FX1 and a DSLR right? How much does it cost in USA?I don't know where to get here in EU thx guys