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Joe Main · March 31st, 2005, 04:38 PM

sorry for this simple question, but what exactly will i need to mount and power a me64 to a z1 camera? I am going to be buying in a few days. Thanks

Marco Leavitt · March 31st, 2005, 07:30 PM

The ME64 needs a power module, either one with an internal battery (K6) or phantom power only (K6p). Most people get the K6 because it's more versatile. Can't help you with your other questions.

Jay Massengill · April 1st, 2005, 10:21 AM

Also tell us more about what you intend to shoot and what led you to pick the ME64. It's good for some things, not for others. There may be alternatives depending on what you're doing.
Especially with an ME64 you'll need a better shockmount and a way to mount it further from the camera body for best results.
Good wind protection will be very important too.

Joe Main · April 1st, 2005, 10:27 AM

i am filming mostly indoors. I have heard it would be a better on camera mic then the 66 for indoor shoots. Is this true?

Marco Leavitt · April 1st, 2005, 10:48 AM

I would definitely take the ME64 over the ME66 in that situation. It has more sound rejection from the rear, so you'll get less operator noise. It will also do better in interiors, and is a lot smaller. You'd want the ME66 for anything outside.

Graeme Fullick · April 1st, 2005, 04:17 PM

Marco and Jay,

I also have this mic/camera combination (will soon own a Z1 - already have the ME64) and was just wondering whether you might suggest the best wind protection/mount. I have been looking at a lightwave miniscreen - does anyone have any experience with this? Also lightwave make an "improved mount" that attaches to the PD170 (and might work well on the Z1) - does anyone have any experience with this. I currently have a PSC shockmount, but would like to change to a side offset mic holder.

WIth regard to an outdoors mic, how do you rate the Sanken CS1?

Any help is appreciated.

Graeme

Jay Massengill · April 1st, 2005, 04:18 PM

Joe, The ME64 will still pick up a lot of camera noise like the zoom motor unless you move it further away with a bracket and shockmount. Mounting it separately from the camera would be even better, especially if this is being staged as opposed to run and gun style shooting.
I would pick the ME64 over the ME66, but there are other mics I'd pick over the ME64. This is especially true if you can keep the mic separate from the camera on a boom stand.

Jay Massengill · April 1st, 2005, 04:24 PM

Graeme, the Lightwave products are good but it's my understanding they are being phased out after they were absorbed by Rycote. I'm not trying to push you away from them, they just might be in short supply.
The CS-1 is considered to be an excellent mic, but it's usually used indoors. It could certainly work for you depending on what you want to capture.

Graeme Fullick · April 1st, 2005, 04:54 PM

Thanks Jay,

DIdn't know about the Rycote lightwave merger.

Marco Leavitt · April 1st, 2005, 07:21 PM

I have it in an AT8415 shockmount mounted in a minirover, so that may be why I don't hear any camera noise. Even mounted in the camera's hotshoe the camera noise isn't excessive, but obviously the most you can minimize it the better. In this instance, I expect there's going to always be music and other noises in the background that would cover it up. ;-)

March 31st, 2005, 04:38 PM	#1
Joe Main Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: ny, ny Posts: 29	stupid newbie question here sorry for this simple question, but what exactly will i need to mount and power a me64 to a z1 camera? I am going to be buying in a few days. Thanks

April 1st, 2005, 04:17 PM	#6
Graeme Fullick Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Newcastle, Australia Posts: 337	Marco and Jay, I also have this mic/camera combination (will soon own a Z1 - already have the ME64) and was just wondering whether you might suggest the best wind protection/mount. I have been looking at a lightwave miniscreen - does anyone have any experience with this? Also lightwave make an "improved mount" that attaches to the PD170 (and might work well on the Z1) - does anyone have any experience with this. I currently have a PSC shockmount, but would like to change to a side offset mic holder. WIth regard to an outdoors mic, how do you rate the Sanken CS1? Any help is appreciated. Graeme __________________ Graeme

April 1st, 2005, 04:54 PM	#9
Graeme Fullick Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Newcastle, Australia Posts: 337	Thanks Jay, DIdn't know about the Rycote lightwave merger. __________________ Graeme

March 31st, 2005, 07:30 PM	#2
Marco Leavitt Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Albany, NY 12210 Posts: 2,652	The ME64 needs a power module, either one with an internal battery (K6) or phantom power only (K6p). Most people get the K6 because it's more versatile. Can't help you with your other questions.

April 1st, 2005, 10:21 AM	#3
Jay Massengill Trustee Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Burlington Posts: 1,976	Also tell us more about what you intend to shoot and what led you to pick the ME64. It's good for some things, not for others. There may be alternatives depending on what you're doing. Especially with an ME64 you'll need a better shockmount and a way to mount it further from the camera body for best results. Good wind protection will be very important too.

April 1st, 2005, 10:27 AM	#4
Joe Main Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: ny, ny Posts: 29	i am filming mostly indoors. I have heard it would be a better on camera mic then the 66 for indoor shoots. Is this true?

April 1st, 2005, 10:48 AM	#5
Marco Leavitt Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Albany, NY 12210 Posts: 2,652	I would definitely take the ME64 over the ME66 in that situation. It has more sound rejection from the rear, so you'll get less operator noise. It will also do better in interiors, and is a lot smaller. You'd want the ME66 for anything outside.

April 1st, 2005, 04:18 PM	#7
Jay Massengill Trustee Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Burlington Posts: 1,976	Joe, The ME64 will still pick up a lot of camera noise like the zoom motor unless you move it further away with a bracket and shockmount. Mounting it separately from the camera would be even better, especially if this is being staged as opposed to run and gun style shooting. I would pick the ME64 over the ME66, but there are other mics I'd pick over the ME64. This is especially true if you can keep the mic separate from the camera on a boom stand.

April 1st, 2005, 04:24 PM	#8
Jay Massengill Trustee Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Burlington Posts: 1,976	Graeme, the Lightwave products are good but it's my understanding they are being phased out after they were absorbed by Rycote. I'm not trying to push you away from them, they just might be in short supply. The CS-1 is considered to be an excellent mic, but it's usually used indoors. It could certainly work for you depending on what you want to capture.

April 1st, 2005, 07:21 PM	#10
Marco Leavitt Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Albany, NY 12210 Posts: 2,652	I have it in an AT8415 shockmount mounted in a minirover, so that may be why I don't hear any camera noise. Even mounted in the camera's hotshoe the camera noise isn't excessive, but obviously the most you can minimize it the better. In this instance, I expect there's going to always be music and other noises in the background that would cover it up. ;-)