Anyone thought of filming in 3.0 ? at DVinfo.net

James Connors · February 23rd, 2005, 06:16 AM

I can't say I've ever seen a production in 3.0, but it could be interesting to make something like this, as those in 2ch would still get the same effect as ever, and those with multichannel setups will get the full effect.

5.1 etc is too much of a pain for those learning as it requires a lot of work and has to be setup differently for theater and home use.. whereas 3.0 I *believe* is the same for both.

Why 3.0 ? Record all your dialog with a shotgun and then isolate the channel as much as you can for clarity, whilst adding all effects etc on in post into the left/right stereo tracks.

This is all kinda guesswork on my behalf as to whether it could work (probably not otherwise I'm sure the world would be full of 3.0 stuff!) but hey, someones gotta try it :)

Douglas Spotted Eagle · February 23rd, 2005, 09:04 AM

And you're going to author/encode to 3.0 in what?

James Connors · February 23rd, 2005, 09:25 AM

Vegas supports multichannel so if you make a surround track with that, you only need to put something in the front 3 yeah? You're the vegas expert so I'm a bit worried that you're asking that question, so maybe I'm totally wrong !

It's not something I plan to do, I'm just curious as to whether it'd be effective at an amateur level.

John C. Chu · February 23rd, 2005, 09:37 AM

Man....must be psychic day...

I was at just this, this morning.

http://www.cascade-audio.com/

http://www.holophone.com

Douglas Spotted Eagle · February 23rd, 2005, 09:51 AM

I understand what you're thinking, but you can't deliver just a 3.0 mix. You could author a 5.1 mix with no rear channels. There are delivery mechanisms for stereo with a center channel, but I don't know what software is available to deliver it any more. In other words, you're using the same bandwidth whether it's 6 channels of PCM or 6 channels of AC3, so you might as well utilize the rear. But obviously you don't have to. Just realize that it's still 5.1 using only L/R/C.

James Connors · February 23rd, 2005, 11:08 AM

oh yeah, i knew that.. sorry i should've been more specific. dvd player would get awfully confused by a straight 3.0 ;)

the fact is, adding surround is a pain.. if you only use it a few times it feels lacking, and it means a lot more work getting the pans etc to sound right.. whereas my idea is mainly for clarity of dialog etc.

February 23rd, 2005, 06:16 AM	#1
James Connors Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cardiff, UK Posts: 223	Anyone thought of filming in 3.0 ? I can't say I've ever seen a production in 3.0, but it could be interesting to make something like this, as those in 2ch would still get the same effect as ever, and those with multichannel setups will get the full effect. 5.1 etc is too much of a pain for those learning as it requires a lot of work and has to be setup differently for theater and home use.. whereas 3.0 I believe is the same for both. Why 3.0 ? Record all your dialog with a shotgun and then isolate the channel as much as you can for clarity, whilst adding all effects etc on in post into the left/right stereo tracks. This is all kinda guesswork on my behalf as to whether it could work (probably not otherwise I'm sure the world would be full of 3.0 stuff!) but hey, someones gotta try it :)

February 23rd, 2005, 09:04 AM	#2
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	And you're going to author/encode to 3.0 in what? __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

February 23rd, 2005, 09:51 AM	#5
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	I understand what you're thinking, but you can't deliver just a 3.0 mix. You could author a 5.1 mix with no rear channels. There are delivery mechanisms for stereo with a center channel, but I don't know what software is available to deliver it any more. In other words, you're using the same bandwidth whether it's 6 channels of PCM or 6 channels of AC3, so you might as well utilize the rear. But obviously you don't have to. Just realize that it's still 5.1 using only L/R/C. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

February 23rd, 2005, 09:25 AM	#3
James Connors Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cardiff, UK Posts: 223	Vegas supports multichannel so if you make a surround track with that, you only need to put something in the front 3 yeah? You're the vegas expert so I'm a bit worried that you're asking that question, so maybe I'm totally wrong ! It's not something I plan to do, I'm just curious as to whether it'd be effective at an amateur level.

February 23rd, 2005, 09:37 AM	#4
John C. Chu Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Rego Park , NYC Posts: 665	Man....must be psychic day... I was at just this, this morning. http://www.cascade-audio.com/ http://www.holophone.com

February 23rd, 2005, 11:08 AM	#6
James Connors Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cardiff, UK Posts: 223	oh yeah, i knew that.. sorry i should've been more specific. dvd player would get awfully confused by a straight 3.0 ;) the fact is, adding surround is a pain.. if you only use it a few times it feels lacking, and it means a lot more work getting the pans etc to sound right.. whereas my idea is mainly for clarity of dialog etc.