How do I generate music notes from whistling and/or hum? at DVinfo.net

Tore Krudtaa · January 13th, 2005, 03:02 PM

I'm looking for software that can record my whistle and/or hum and produce notes and hopefully beats as well.

Then if I can produce notes that way I would now like to be able to use another software / or the same to generate different sounds based on the generated notes.

Sound from i.e. clarinet, piano, violin, drums ........

So... is there such software out there, preferably for WinXP and or Linux (or MAC).

In Norway I saw an advertice for a guy that had invented a software program that could suggest/find music that matched most closely to a whistle. It was designed to help music sales persons to be able to help the customers to find the music they where looking for. Many customers did not remember enough notes so the sales person could recognice the actual music piece... but the software would be able to identify the actual piece based on a lot less info than us .. .the humans...

So if this was possible then I thought a software that does what I want should exist somewhere out there.

Giroud Francois · January 13th, 2005, 03:12 PM

there are some software (and even hardware ) that can do that.
there are some MIDI microphones they generate notes from any noise.
There are even device that can take you voice singing a song, then correct the picth (in case you sing really wrong) and produce an output of youre same voice, but corrected.
http://www.2-mp3.com/midi-tool/akoff-music-composer/

Emre Safak · January 13th, 2005, 06:56 PM

That is so cool! A beautiful application of technology.

Hope you find what you are looking for.

Tore Krudtaa · January 13th, 2005, 11:41 PM

Thanks for the suggestion.

For the note generation it looks to be what I'm after.

It would have been nice to also be able to convert that
converted files to a higher HZ rate, 16 bit and stereo.

Any suggestions for that?

Then....only one part is missing.

Do you know about software I can use to generate piano, guitar, flute, .... "woices" from that generated notes?

Thanks again.

Giroud Francois · January 14th, 2005, 02:13 AM

i do not really understand what you need for the 2nd part.
you should know that every note of music is made from 3 part.
the shape (make the note feel like the instrument you need) of the note.
the shape is itself made from attack,sustain,decay (how it starts, how long it stays, and how it finishes)
inside the shapeof note, you must put a content (what makes sound the note like the instrument =the shape of the wave). it could be pure sinus wave or complex white noise.
and finally the pitch (frequency) that make the note.
using midi is great because you can create a sample of only one note for an instrument and generate all the others from this sample. Then you can play the score with any instrument (even human voice).
Some high end wav editor can do the same without using midi, but it is considerably trickier, because you have to use many feature to tweak properly the signal.

Jeff Patnaude · January 14th, 2005, 08:35 AM

It sounds like you guys are talking about "vocorders" and samplers.

A vocorder- software or hardware, takes two different sounds and more or less blends them together. You get vocal effets like the vocals on Dirty Vegas "...days go by and still I think of you...." There are software versions that will blend sounds- dont think thats what you want.

A sampler is probably what you are looking for. You record any audio snippit that you wish to manipulate, and can control it with a midi keyboard. There are a number of versions of this. Some of the older Ensonique keyboards are probably going cheap now. There are also software versions that are very cool-- Sampletank for the Mac, and Gigasampler for the Pc'ers. Once installed on your computer, you can record and control the sounds/samples with an external midi keyboard. Very cool stuff. I have a rack mount sampler in my midi studio, but it's collected dust in the past months.

Jeff Patnaude

Miquel de Pablo · January 16th, 2005, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Do you know about software I can use to generate piano, guitar, flute, .... "woices" from that generated notes?

Once the singing or humming is saved as MIDI notes, then any software or hardware synthesizer should play it back using any instrument that the synthesizer supports.

Jack Smith · January 17th, 2005, 11:33 PM

Checkout Sibelius software. As you record to it it produces the music score.Pretty wild .An associate uses it and is very pleased
smitty

Jeff Patnaude · January 18th, 2005, 06:45 PM

AS mentioned in my previous message,
you can use a program called "Sampletank" for the Mac or "Gigasampler" for the PC. I have a friend using Gigasampler and it's very cool.

<http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=home/search/detail/base_pid/707804/>
<http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=home/search/detail/base_pid/709107/>
<http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=home/search/detail/base_pid/702347/>
<http://www.tascamgiga.com/>

Good Luck,

Jeff Patnaude

January 13th, 2005, 03:02 PM	#1
Tore Krudtaa Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Norway Posts: 27	How do I generate music notes from whistling and/or hum? I'm looking for software that can record my whistle and/or hum and produce notes and hopefully beats as well. Then if I can produce notes that way I would now like to be able to use another software / or the same to generate different sounds based on the generated notes. Sound from i.e. clarinet, piano, violin, drums ........ So... is there such software out there, preferably for WinXP and or Linux (or MAC). In Norway I saw an advertice for a guy that had invented a software program that could suggest/find music that matched most closely to a whistle. It was designed to help music sales persons to be able to help the customers to find the music they where looking for. Many customers did not remember enough notes so the sales person could recognice the actual music piece... but the software would be able to identify the actual piece based on a lot less info than us .. .the humans... So if this was possible then I thought a software that does what I want should exist somewhere out there. __________________ Tore

January 13th, 2005, 11:41 PM	#4
Tore Krudtaa Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Norway Posts: 27	Thanks for the suggestion. For the note generation it looks to be what I'm after. It would have been nice to also be able to convert that converted files to a higher HZ rate, 16 bit and stereo. Any suggestions for that? Then....only one part is missing. Do you know about software I can use to generate piano, guitar, flute, .... "woices" from that generated notes? Thanks again. __________________ Tore

January 13th, 2005, 03:12 PM	#2
Giroud Francois Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: switzerland Posts: 2,133	there are some software (and even hardware ) that can do that. there are some MIDI microphones they generate notes from any noise. There are even device that can take you voice singing a song, then correct the picth (in case you sing really wrong) and produce an output of youre same voice, but corrected. http://www.2-mp3.com/midi-tool/akoff-music-composer/

January 13th, 2005, 06:56 PM	#3
Emre Safak Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brookline, MA Posts: 1,447	That is so cool! A beautiful application of technology. Hope you find what you are looking for.

January 14th, 2005, 02:13 AM	#5
Giroud Francois Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: switzerland Posts: 2,133	i do not really understand what you need for the 2nd part. you should know that every note of music is made from 3 part. the shape (make the note feel like the instrument you need) of the note. the shape is itself made from attack,sustain,decay (how it starts, how long it stays, and how it finishes) inside the shapeof note, you must put a content (what makes sound the note like the instrument =the shape of the wave). it could be pure sinus wave or complex white noise. and finally the pitch (frequency) that make the note. using midi is great because you can create a sample of only one note for an instrument and generate all the others from this sample. Then you can play the score with any instrument (even human voice). Some high end wav editor can do the same without using midi, but it is considerably trickier, because you have to use many feature to tweak properly the signal.

January 14th, 2005, 08:35 AM	#6
Jeff Patnaude Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Duluth, Georgia Posts: 248	It sounds like you guys are talking about "vocorders" and samplers. A vocorder- software or hardware, takes two different sounds and more or less blends them together. You get vocal effets like the vocals on Dirty Vegas "...days go by and still I think of you...." There are software versions that will blend sounds- dont think thats what you want. A sampler is probably what you are looking for. You record any audio snippit that you wish to manipulate, and can control it with a midi keyboard. There are a number of versions of this. Some of the older Ensonique keyboards are probably going cheap now. There are also software versions that are very cool-- Sampletank for the Mac, and Gigasampler for the Pc'ers. Once installed on your computer, you can record and control the sounds/samples with an external midi keyboard. Very cool stuff. I have a rack mount sampler in my midi studio, but it's collected dust in the past months. Jeff Patnaude

January 17th, 2005, 11:33 PM	#8
Jack Smith Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: ontario Posts: 445	Checkout Sibelius software. As you record to it it produces the music score.Pretty wild .An associate uses it and is very pleased smitty

January 18th, 2005, 06:45 PM	#9
Jeff Patnaude Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Duluth, Georgia Posts: 248	AS mentioned in my previous message, you can use a program called "Sampletank" for the Mac or "Gigasampler" for the PC. I have a friend using Gigasampler and it's very cool. <http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=home/search/detail/base_pid/707804/> <http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=home/search/detail/base_pid/709107/> <http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=home/search/detail/base_pid/702347/> <http://www.tascamgiga.com/> Good Luck, Jeff Patnaude