Wireless Mics for movie making? at DVinfo.net

Bob Benkosky · December 11th, 2004, 04:11 PM

Ok, I know that alot of people on here like the Sennheiser ew112P G2 for weddings and interviews and stuff, but do people really use these for movies?

I mean, I have a nice Azden shotgun mic, and the sound is very good, but obviously if the camera is very far away from the people, a good wireless mic would do the trick for that shot, but what about just getting really good audio from closer shots?

Are these good mics to rely on for solid audio compared to the old traditional shotgun or even shotgun on a boom stand? I don't have anyone that's going to be a boom operator or anything, but I'm just curious.

I have the chance to buy the Senn EW112 Kit but I'll wait until I actually get a paying gig if they aren't all that good at getting audio for movies.

I'm sure they are great for picking up audio as far as quality, but you do need to attach them and you don't want them making scratching sounds if the people move around, right?

Ty Ford · December 12th, 2004, 11:21 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Bob Benkosky : Ok, I know that alot of people on here like the Sennheiser ew112P G2 for weddings and interviews and stuff, but do people really use these for movies?

--not the real movies. Most off those are lectrosonic, audio Ltd., zaxcom.

I mean, I have a nice Azden shotgun mic, and the sound is very good, but obviously if the camera is very far away from the people, a good wireless mic would do the trick for that shot, but what about just getting really good audio from closer shots?

--boom mic and/or wireless depending on the shot. Not an Azden. A Sennheiser, Neumann or Sanken shotgun and a Schoeps hypercardioid And yes, they sound better

Are these good mics to rely on for solid audio compared to the old traditional shotgun or even shotgun on a boom stand? I don't have anyone that's going to be a boom operator or anything, but I'm just curious.

--I don't quite understand the question. The traditional shotguns and hypercardioids will smoke even the best lavs, provided you can get it close enough. BTW, a good hyper will smoke a shotgun in most interiors if it can get close enough.

I have the chance to buy the Senn EW112 Kit but I'll wait until I actually get a paying gig if they aren't all that good at getting audio for movies.--

I'm sure they are great for picking up audio as far as quality, but you do need to attach them and you don't want them making scratching sounds if the people move around, right? -->>>

-- right. and that's an art and craft unto itself. You won't likely see Senn EW112 on any big budget movie set.

Regards,

Ty Ford

Bob Benkosky · December 12th, 2004, 11:58 PM

Yea, I understand that "REAL" movies won't use them.

Thanks for the input. Obviously the key is a top-of-the-line hypercardioid.

Maybe I'll look into selling the Azden SMG-X2, I think that's it, and getting maybe a $400 mic or better.

Got any suggestions for some really good shotgun mics?

Jonathan Nicholas · December 13th, 2004, 07:42 AM

My 2c

I asked the question about movie dialogue once and I got the answer that it's all replaced afterwards in voice over booths with something call ADR (automatic dialogue replacement)

The sound that they get on set is not the sound that is used in the final edit.

If you watch a movie you'll notice that there is next to no background noise that you would get using even the best shot gun mic in town.

Unfortunately this knowledge has made me watch movies differently. Oh well!

Jon

December 11th, 2004, 04:11 PM	#1
Bob Benkosky Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lake Park, Florida Posts: 202	Wireless Mics for movie making? Ok, I know that alot of people on here like the Sennheiser ew112P G2 for weddings and interviews and stuff, but do people really use these for movies? I mean, I have a nice Azden shotgun mic, and the sound is very good, but obviously if the camera is very far away from the people, a good wireless mic would do the trick for that shot, but what about just getting really good audio from closer shots? Are these good mics to rely on for solid audio compared to the old traditional shotgun or even shotgun on a boom stand? I don't have anyone that's going to be a boom operator or anything, but I'm just curious. I have the chance to buy the Senn EW112 Kit but I'll wait until I actually get a paying gig if they aren't all that good at getting audio for movies. I'm sure they are great for picking up audio as far as quality, but you do need to attach them and you don't want them making scratching sounds if the people move around, right? __________________ http://www.veoh.com/channels/filmmaker My clips and films.

December 12th, 2004, 11:21 PM	#2
Ty Ford Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Posts: 2,337	Re: Wireless Mics for movie making? <<<-- Originally posted by Bob Benkosky : Ok, I know that alot of people on here like the Sennheiser ew112P G2 for weddings and interviews and stuff, but do people really use these for movies? --not the real movies. Most off those are lectrosonic, audio Ltd., zaxcom. I mean, I have a nice Azden shotgun mic, and the sound is very good, but obviously if the camera is very far away from the people, a good wireless mic would do the trick for that shot, but what about just getting really good audio from closer shots? --boom mic and/or wireless depending on the shot. Not an Azden. A Sennheiser, Neumann or Sanken shotgun and a Schoeps hypercardioid And yes, they sound better Are these good mics to rely on for solid audio compared to the old traditional shotgun or even shotgun on a boom stand? I don't have anyone that's going to be a boom operator or anything, but I'm just curious. --I don't quite understand the question. The traditional shotguns and hypercardioids will smoke even the best lavs, provided you can get it close enough. BTW, a good hyper will smoke a shotgun in most interiors if it can get close enough. I have the chance to buy the Senn EW112 Kit but I'll wait until I actually get a paying gig if they aren't all that good at getting audio for movies.-- I'm sure they are great for picking up audio as far as quality, but you do need to attach them and you don't want them making scratching sounds if the people move around, right? -->>> -- right. and that's an art and craft unto itself. You won't likely see Senn EW112 on any big budget movie set. Regards, Ty Ford __________________ Ty Ford's Audio Bootcamp Field Guide Ty Ford's Audio Video Blog

December 12th, 2004, 11:58 PM	#3
Bob Benkosky Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lake Park, Florida Posts: 202	Yea, I understand that "REAL" movies won't use them. Thanks for the input. Obviously the key is a top-of-the-line hypercardioid. Maybe I'll look into selling the Azden SMG-X2, I think that's it, and getting maybe a $400 mic or better. Got any suggestions for some really good shotgun mics? __________________ http://www.veoh.com/channels/filmmaker My clips and films.

December 13th, 2004, 07:42 AM	#4
Jonathan Nicholas Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 90	My 2c I asked the question about movie dialogue once and I got the answer that it's all replaced afterwards in voice over booths with something call ADR (automatic dialogue replacement) The sound that they get on set is not the sound that is used in the final edit. If you watch a movie you'll notice that there is next to no background noise that you would get using even the best shot gun mic in town. Unfortunately this knowledge has made me watch movies differently. Oh well! Jon