Soundsoap vs. Premiere Pro at DVinfo.net

Rusty Williams · December 6th, 2004, 05:41 PM

Hi, Folks...

As my most glaring weakness from a technical standpoint is audio, I have a question regarding post-production sound that I'm sure many of you will be on top of:

I am thinking about buying Soundsoap to clean up glitches in audio (humm, scratchiness, etc.). I listened to the Soundsoap demos at their site, and I was impressed. However, I edit with Premiere Pro, and I must be honest in that I don't understand the full compliment of audio tweaking it allows.

So, my question is, can Premiere Pro do everything that Soundsoap is going to do if I take the time to fully learn the audio aspects of the program? Or would I be better off to buy Soundsoap, as it offers more than Premiere Pro can?

I don't mind spending the money for Soundsoap if it will really help me out, but I can't see investing in it if all I need to do is thoroughly learn each individual feature of Premiere Pro.

Thanks a lot for any help or advice!

-Rusty-

Rhett Allen · December 6th, 2004, 06:42 PM

It depends on if you have the time. Because Premier is a "video" application I wouldn't expect it to be very strong at audio just like I wouldn't expect to edit video with SoundSoap. I own a copy of SoundSoap, and it's ok. I needed to clean up some audio in a hurry and it did a pretty good job. I haven't tried SoundSoap PRO but I know there is a demo version of the regular one for download. That's what I did. I downloaded it for Bias Peak and it did what I wanted so I drove over to Guitar Center and bought it.

I don't use Premier, so I can't actually speak to it's abilities but I am just guessing, it's not a strong audio program. It's not meant to be.

Douglas Spotted Eagle · December 6th, 2004, 06:42 PM

Rusty,
Soundsoap Pro is a cleaning application to kill hum, noise, rumble, and other unpleasantness from the audio file. Premiere's tools don't begin to approach what Soap does, so the question isn't so much "will Premiere do as good a job?" as the question should be "Do I have noise in my audio?" I'll wager you do if you shoot with the on-cam mic, in airconditioned areas, areas that have transformers or arc lighting, welders, SCR's, or other noise inducing locations. It's pretty rare that live audio doesn't have noise, and no, Premiere's tools can't manage it anywhere near like SoundSoap Pro from Bias can.

Rusty Williams · December 6th, 2004, 06:54 PM

Great! Thanks a lot for the info, guys!

I guess I'll be buying Soundsoap! I knew this was the right place to turn for guidance.

Thanks again.

Gareth Watkins · December 8th, 2004, 03:02 AM

Hi Rusty

I don't know Soundsoap but.....
As you're editing in PPro.... take a look at Adobe Audition before you get any other software. As with all the Adobe stuff from Photoshop to Encore it all integrates to one big software....

To my mind Audition would be a more logical and proabably useful piece of kit with PPro

Regards

Gareth

Rusty Williams · December 8th, 2004, 03:33 PM

Thanks, Gareth.

That sounds good. I will absolutely check that out.

Lars Siden · December 8th, 2004, 03:34 PM

Hi Guys,

I just tested "Magix Audio Cleaning Lab" - And I'm very impressed!

Could easily remove "hiss, humm, wind, motor and noise" - and it's cheap! 39.99$

Lots of other functionality included as well!

Give it a try at "www.magix.com"

// Lazze \\

Emre Safak · December 8th, 2004, 05:59 PM

Isn't that the monthly rental price?

Gareth Watkins · December 9th, 2004, 03:26 AM

Hi All

I've used Magix stuff before for editing... Video Plus etc

It is quite powerful, and very cheap... but I found it's solutions to get various effects awkward compared to Prem Pro...

Also it offered loads of possibilities, audio, authoring etc in one software package, but half of it didn't work correctly.. and many of the effects were just gimmicky and not very useful.

I would suspect that while it will indeed cope with certain audio needs on a budget.... the fact is that Adobe offers a much more professional tool that integrates through their whole range of products .. this is for me a major plus. Get the cheapy software by all means.. but you'll end up getting the proper stuff at some point...

Just my opinion...

Cheers

G

December 6th, 2004, 05:41 PM	#1
Rusty Williams Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Fonda, NY Posts: 57	Soundsoap vs. Premiere Pro Hi, Folks... As my most glaring weakness from a technical standpoint is audio, I have a question regarding post-production sound that I'm sure many of you will be on top of: I am thinking about buying Soundsoap to clean up glitches in audio (humm, scratchiness, etc.). I listened to the Soundsoap demos at their site, and I was impressed. However, I edit with Premiere Pro, and I must be honest in that I don't understand the full compliment of audio tweaking it allows. So, my question is, can Premiere Pro do everything that Soundsoap is going to do if I take the time to fully learn the audio aspects of the program? Or would I be better off to buy Soundsoap, as it offers more than Premiere Pro can? I don't mind spending the money for Soundsoap if it will really help me out, but I can't see investing in it if all I need to do is thoroughly learn each individual feature of Premiere Pro. Thanks a lot for any help or advice! -Rusty-

December 6th, 2004, 06:42 PM	#3
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	Rusty, Soundsoap Pro is a cleaning application to kill hum, noise, rumble, and other unpleasantness from the audio file. Premiere's tools don't begin to approach what Soap does, so the question isn't so much "will Premiere do as good a job?" as the question should be "Do I have noise in my audio?" I'll wager you do if you shoot with the on-cam mic, in airconditioned areas, areas that have transformers or arc lighting, welders, SCR's, or other noise inducing locations. It's pretty rare that live audio doesn't have noise, and no, Premiere's tools can't manage it anywhere near like SoundSoap Pro from Bias can. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

December 6th, 2004, 06:42 PM	#2
Rhett Allen Major Player Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 607	It depends on if you have the time. Because Premier is a "video" application I wouldn't expect it to be very strong at audio just like I wouldn't expect to edit video with SoundSoap. I own a copy of SoundSoap, and it's ok. I needed to clean up some audio in a hurry and it did a pretty good job. I haven't tried SoundSoap PRO but I know there is a demo version of the regular one for download. That's what I did. I downloaded it for Bias Peak and it did what I wanted so I drove over to Guitar Center and bought it. I don't use Premier, so I can't actually speak to it's abilities but I am just guessing, it's not a strong audio program. It's not meant to be.

December 6th, 2004, 06:54 PM	#4
Rusty Williams Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Fonda, NY Posts: 57	Great! Thanks a lot for the info, guys! I guess I'll be buying Soundsoap! I knew this was the right place to turn for guidance. Thanks again.

December 8th, 2004, 03:02 AM	#5
Gareth Watkins Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: France Posts: 578	Hi Rusty I don't know Soundsoap but..... As you're editing in PPro.... take a look at Adobe Audition before you get any other software. As with all the Adobe stuff from Photoshop to Encore it all integrates to one big software.... To my mind Audition would be a more logical and proabably useful piece of kit with PPro Regards Gareth

December 8th, 2004, 03:33 PM	#6
Rusty Williams Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Fonda, NY Posts: 57	Thanks, Gareth. That sounds good. I will absolutely check that out.

December 8th, 2004, 03:34 PM	#7
Lars Siden Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden, Stockholm Posts: 469	Hi Guys, I just tested "Magix Audio Cleaning Lab" - And I'm very impressed! Could easily remove "hiss, humm, wind, motor and noise" - and it's cheap! 39.99$ Lots of other functionality included as well! Give it a try at "www.magix.com" // Lazze \\

December 8th, 2004, 05:59 PM	#8
Emre Safak Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brookline, MA Posts: 1,447	Isn't that the monthly rental price?

December 9th, 2004, 03:26 AM	#9
Gareth Watkins Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: France Posts: 578	Hi All I've used Magix stuff before for editing... Video Plus etc It is quite powerful, and very cheap... but I found it's solutions to get various effects awkward compared to Prem Pro... Also it offered loads of possibilities, audio, authoring etc in one software package, but half of it didn't work correctly.. and many of the effects were just gimmicky and not very useful. I would suspect that while it will indeed cope with certain audio needs on a budget.... the fact is that Adobe offers a much more professional tool that integrates through their whole range of products .. this is for me a major plus. Get the cheapy software by all means.. but you'll end up getting the proper stuff at some point... Just my opinion... Cheers G