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Todd Kivimaki · November 19th, 2004, 12:18 AM

Alright I've come to realize from my past post, that I need to get a cheap omnidirectional XLR mic as good as the GL2's. I just need to pick up the organ, and the church's sound system, at a Wedding. I will have wireless on the groom. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks

Ivan Bernstein · November 19th, 2004, 07:31 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Todd Kivimaki : Alright I've come to realize from my past post, that I need to get a cheap omnidirectional XLR mic as good as the GL2's. I just need to pick up the organ, and the church's sound system, at a Wedding. I will have wireless on the groom. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks -->>>
Just pick up a $45 - $60 condenser, it should be fine. Make sure you read up on mic placement. Better yet, if the church has a sound system, see if their engineer will give you a line-out.

Todd Kivimaki · November 20th, 2004, 12:24 AM

I'd like to stick with an on cam mic, that way it's easiest for me to move about during the ceremony. Or is that waht you were talking about? Any specific models?
Thanks!

David Ennis · November 21st, 2004, 10:12 AM

Having discussed this with Todd in another thread, let me clarify:

He's satisfied with the performance of the GL2's on board mic, it's just that he can't use it simultaneously with his wireless.

He doesn't have much to spend so he's looking for an inexpensive mic with roughly equivalent performace to the on board mic that he can mount on the camera and connect through his XLR adaptor. It should be an omni so he can move around with his camera and still get consistent sounding coverage of the music that fills the room.

Any recommendations for him?

Jay Massengill · November 21st, 2004, 10:26 AM

If I remember, he doesn't have phantom power, so I'd recommend the ATM-10a (also listed as the ATM10a if you're searching).
It's an omni that can run on battery or phantom. It has a slim body and is fairly lightweight. Sensitivity is only moderate, but the lowest cost I've seen is $100. Many places have it for $110.
Its sensitivity is much higher than a dynamic mic, and its quality is better than really cheap condensers, but camera mics are often hypersensitive to make sure they capture everything.
A much higher sensitivity battery-powered omni would be the K6/ME62, but it would be at least $350 total.

Todd Kivimaki · November 23rd, 2004, 10:52 PM

Thanks for the reply, I'm doing some searching on the ATM10a, and by looking at the pictures it looks as if it only fits on a mic stand, and not on the gl2 shoe. Does it come with an adapter so it will fit on my camera?
Thanks!

Jay Massengill · November 24th, 2004, 09:17 AM

B&H sells an inexpensive shoe-to-5/8"-mic-thread adapter. This would be the minimum you'd need.
To better isolate the mic from the noise and handling of the camera, B&H also sells camera shoe shockmounts that start at $30 and go up from there.

November 19th, 2004, 12:18 AM	#1
Todd Kivimaki Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Elida Ohio Posts: 217	Need a external mic as good as GL2 Alright I've come to realize from my past post, that I need to get a cheap omnidirectional XLR mic as good as the GL2's. I just need to pick up the organ, and the church's sound system, at a Wedding. I will have wireless on the groom. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks

November 19th, 2004, 07:31 PM	#2
Ivan Bernstein New Boot Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Palos Hills, Illinois Posts: 6	Re: Need a external mic as good as GL2 <<<-- Originally posted by Todd Kivimaki : Alright I've come to realize from my past post, that I need to get a cheap omnidirectional XLR mic as good as the GL2's. I just need to pick up the organ, and the church's sound system, at a Wedding. I will have wireless on the groom. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks -->>> Just pick up a $45 - $60 condenser, it should be fine. Make sure you read up on mic placement. Better yet, if the church has a sound system, see if their engineer will give you a line-out.

November 21st, 2004, 10:12 AM	#4
David Ennis Fred Retread Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Hartford, CT Posts: 1,227	Having discussed this with Todd in another thread, let me clarify: He's satisfied with the performance of the GL2's on board mic, it's just that he can't use it simultaneously with his wireless. He doesn't have much to spend so he's looking for an inexpensive mic with roughly equivalent performace to the on board mic that he can mount on the camera and connect through his XLR adaptor. It should be an omni so he can move around with his camera and still get consistent sounding coverage of the music that fills the room. Any recommendations for him? __________________ "Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence..." - Calvin Coolidge "My brain is wired to want to know how other things are wired." - Me

November 20th, 2004, 12:24 AM	#3
Todd Kivimaki Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Elida Ohio Posts: 217	I'd like to stick with an on cam mic, that way it's easiest for me to move about during the ceremony. Or is that waht you were talking about? Any specific models? Thanks!

November 21st, 2004, 10:26 AM	#5
Jay Massengill Trustee Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Burlington Posts: 1,976	If I remember, he doesn't have phantom power, so I'd recommend the ATM-10a (also listed as the ATM10a if you're searching). It's an omni that can run on battery or phantom. It has a slim body and is fairly lightweight. Sensitivity is only moderate, but the lowest cost I've seen is $100. Many places have it for $110. Its sensitivity is much higher than a dynamic mic, and its quality is better than really cheap condensers, but camera mics are often hypersensitive to make sure they capture everything. A much higher sensitivity battery-powered omni would be the K6/ME62, but it would be at least $350 total.

November 23rd, 2004, 10:52 PM	#6
Todd Kivimaki Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Elida Ohio Posts: 217	Thanks for the reply, I'm doing some searching on the ATM10a, and by looking at the pictures it looks as if it only fits on a mic stand, and not on the gl2 shoe. Does it come with an adapter so it will fit on my camera? Thanks!

November 24th, 2004, 09:17 AM	#7
Jay Massengill Trustee Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Burlington Posts: 1,976	B&H sells an inexpensive shoe-to-5/8"-mic-thread adapter. This would be the minimum you'd need. To better isolate the mic from the noise and handling of the camera, B&H also sells camera shoe shockmounts that start at $30 and go up from there.