What midi-sequenced based program do you use? at DVinfo.net

Ed Fiebke · November 9th, 2004, 11:39 PM

It's only been recently, since around 2002, that I've been delving into the world of DV recording/editing. In the meantime, I've been doing midi-sequencing/arranging since around 1988.

I have a PC computer and use Vegas 5 as my main miniDV editor. It does a dandy job recording and editing audio as well. But it has no midi sequencing functions at all. To get around this, I have available either Emagic's Logic 5 and Steinberg's SX 1.06 programs. Additionally, I have Cakewalk's Sonar 3 program. (Note, I've been using Calkwalk sequencing programs since 1993 or so, although I never got into their later software versions until Sonar.) I also use MOTU devices (828 MKII and the MTPAV).

Everything right now works just fine! I am pleased to say that my modest little digital audio/video studio with all its software and hardware devices is solidly configured. But life and technology forever moves forward. I am now interested in moving towards a 100% computer-based sequencing utilizing all "softsynths" and software-based samplers. I recently purchased the Garriton Personal Orchestra (which rocks, by the way), and every few weeks I purchase new sound banks for the Halion software sampler. I also plan on purchasing a couple of more softsynths in the near future to help round out my "softsynth studio".

In the meantime, while I plan for my next "tweeking" of my happy little studio, I'm wondering what programs other audio/video-editing people use for sequencing music to their videos. So! Providing that you midi-sequence your musical arrangements to your DV work, what sequencing-based programs DO you use? Do you primarily use tone-generator hardware for your sounds?? Or do you mostly use softsynths?? What softsynths do you use? Also, what sound card(s) and midi port(s) do you use??

Looking foward to reading your replies. I learn a LOT for you all! :)

Respectfully,

Ted

Bruce S. Yarock · November 10th, 2004, 06:15 AM

Ed,
Your set up sounds interesting.
I've been using Cubase and Nuendo for several years. I do a mixture of reals live tracks ( vocals, guitars, etc.), acid loops, VST instruments,and some software based synths (Halion). Where do you get the addl. sounds for halion? I'm always looking for new ideas...
Bruce yarock

Boyd Ostroff · November 10th, 2004, 10:34 AM

I'm obviously not in your league at all, but am just now starting to experiment around. I've been using Apple's GarageBand on a PowerBook G4. For a free (or $50 if you need to buy the whole iLife package) program I must say that I'm impressed. I have a background in the piano although I've let it slip over the years.

I got a StudioLogic TMK-88 keyboard, a cheap USB midi interface and a pair of Samson studio monitors at a clearance sale. So for under $500 I now have a basic setup where I can experiment and learn. A couple years ago I never would have believed this would be possible for so little. Perhaps someday after I cut my teeth on this I'll find the need to move up to something more sophisticated like you guys use. :-)

Ed Fiebke · November 10th, 2004, 02:04 PM

Bruce -

I download sounds from www.wizoo.com , more specifically at this link:

Wizoosounds

Even more specifially, at this part of their website for the Halion plug-in:

Wizoosounds for Halion

Their library of sounds is slowing growing.

Another site worth exploring is Sounds Online. I haven't purchased anything from them, yet. I just recently found this place.

Sounds Online

Boyd -

My set up is very, very modest. But it most certainly meets my present needs.

One question. How do you like StudioLogic's TMK-88 keyboard? I am currently using an aging QuadraSynth + Piano by Alesis. It's controllers act wierd sometimes, and I'm afraid that it's time to purchase a new midi-controller keyboard. I've been eyeing the keyboard controllers by StudioLogic. I've also been eyeing the keyboard controllers by M-Audio. I would like an 88-key controller. the TMK-88 is one of them. Are you happy with it??

I share your wonderment and enthusiasm!! I never would have believed that I would be doing the audio & video recording/editing I'm doing (and still learning to do) now. Without a doubt, modern technology has been very generous to the average "joes" like me who hold passionate interests in such endeavors.

Boyd Ostroff · November 10th, 2004, 03:19 PM

I am really impressed with the TMK-88. I had a Yamaha digital piano (~66 keys?) and shopped around a bit when I got it for about $1,000 in 1993. I was excited about using it with GarageBand until I dug it out an found that about 3 keys were bad. I wasted over 4 hours messing with that to no avail, and finally figured I needed a new keyboard. I was really surprised to find a full 88 key model for $300. It's very basic, just a keyboard, but the action feels good to me and it works perfectly with GarageBand.

Matt Stahley · November 10th, 2004, 08:34 PM

Well Ive recently dumped all my akai hardware samplers and have been running Propellerheads Reason on an iBook G4. The NNXT sampler in this software is worth the price alone not to mention the customizable synths etc.But I guess it really depends on what you plan to do. A firend runs Reason using rewire with protools without a hitch as well. this gives him the ability for live tracks vocals etc. I personally will record vocals with garageband and then chop them with recycle and back into reason and sequence where i want etc.I guesss it comes down to what your needs are and how you like to work.Ive always used akai MPC workstations and reason by far blows them away.

November 9th, 2004, 11:39 PM	#1
Ed Fiebke Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Lebanon, New York Posts: 240	What midi-sequenced based program do you use? It's only been recently, since around 2002, that I've been delving into the world of DV recording/editing. In the meantime, I've been doing midi-sequencing/arranging since around 1988. I have a PC computer and use Vegas 5 as my main miniDV editor. It does a dandy job recording and editing audio as well. But it has no midi sequencing functions at all. To get around this, I have available either Emagic's Logic 5 and Steinberg's SX 1.06 programs. Additionally, I have Cakewalk's Sonar 3 program. (Note, I've been using Calkwalk sequencing programs since 1993 or so, although I never got into their later software versions until Sonar.) I also use MOTU devices (828 MKII and the MTPAV). Everything right now works just fine! I am pleased to say that my modest little digital audio/video studio with all its software and hardware devices is solidly configured. But life and technology forever moves forward. I am now interested in moving towards a 100% computer-based sequencing utilizing all "softsynths" and software-based samplers. I recently purchased the Garriton Personal Orchestra (which rocks, by the way), and every few weeks I purchase new sound banks for the Halion software sampler. I also plan on purchasing a couple of more softsynths in the near future to help round out my "softsynth studio". In the meantime, while I plan for my next "tweeking" of my happy little studio, I'm wondering what programs other audio/video-editing people use for sequencing music to their videos. So! Providing that you midi-sequence your musical arrangements to your DV work, what sequencing-based programs DO you use? Do you primarily use tone-generator hardware for your sounds?? Or do you mostly use softsynths?? What softsynths do you use? Also, what sound card(s) and midi port(s) do you use?? Looking foward to reading your replies. I learn a LOT for you all! :) Respectfully, Ted __________________ iMac Pro (3.2 GHz 8-Core Intel Xeon W ): OS X 10.15.6; 64 GBs RAM; Radeon Pro Vega 64X 16 GB graphics; 2 TB internal SSD; 3 external SSDs; MOTU 828ES

November 10th, 2004, 02:04 PM	#4
Ed Fiebke Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Lebanon, New York Posts: 240	Bruce - I download sounds from www.wizoo.com , more specifically at this link: Wizoosounds Even more specifially, at this part of their website for the Halion plug-in: Wizoosounds for Halion Their library of sounds is slowing growing. Another site worth exploring is Sounds Online. I haven't purchased anything from them, yet. I just recently found this place. Sounds Online Boyd - My set up is very, very modest. But it most certainly meets my present needs. One question. How do you like StudioLogic's TMK-88 keyboard? I am currently using an aging QuadraSynth + Piano by Alesis. It's controllers act wierd sometimes, and I'm afraid that it's time to purchase a new midi-controller keyboard. I've been eyeing the keyboard controllers by StudioLogic. I've also been eyeing the keyboard controllers by M-Audio. I would like an 88-key controller. the TMK-88 is one of them. Are you happy with it?? I share your wonderment and enthusiasm!! I never would have believed that I would be doing the audio & video recording/editing I'm doing (and still learning to do) now. Without a doubt, modern technology has been very generous to the average "joes" like me who hold passionate interests in such endeavors. __________________ iMac Pro (3.2 GHz 8-Core Intel Xeon W ): OS X 10.15.6; 64 GBs RAM; Radeon Pro Vega 64X 16 GB graphics; 2 TB internal SSD; 3 external SSDs; MOTU 828ES

November 10th, 2004, 06:15 AM	#2
Bruce S. Yarock Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl. Posts: 1,842	Ed, Your set up sounds interesting. I've been using Cubase and Nuendo for several years. I do a mixture of reals live tracks ( vocals, guitars, etc.), acid loops, VST instruments,and some software based synths (Halion). Where do you get the addl. sounds for halion? I'm always looking for new ideas... Bruce yarock

November 10th, 2004, 10:34 AM	#3
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	I'm obviously not in your league at all, but am just now starting to experiment around. I've been using Apple's GarageBand on a PowerBook G4. For a free (or $50 if you need to buy the whole iLife package) program I must say that I'm impressed. I have a background in the piano although I've let it slip over the years. I got a StudioLogic TMK-88 keyboard, a cheap USB midi interface and a pair of Samson studio monitors at a clearance sale. So for under $500 I now have a basic setup where I can experiment and learn. A couple years ago I never would have believed this would be possible for so little. Perhaps someday after I cut my teeth on this I'll find the need to move up to something more sophisticated like you guys use. :-)

November 10th, 2004, 03:19 PM	#5
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	I am really impressed with the TMK-88. I had a Yamaha digital piano (~66 keys?) and shopped around a bit when I got it for about $1,000 in 1993. I was excited about using it with GarageBand until I dug it out an found that about 3 keys were bad. I wasted over 4 hours messing with that to no avail, and finally figured I needed a new keyboard. I was really surprised to find a full 88 key model for $300. It's very basic, just a keyboard, but the action feels good to me and it works perfectly with GarageBand.

November 10th, 2004, 08:34 PM	#6
Matt Stahley Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Waynesboro, PA Posts: 648	Well Ive recently dumped all my akai hardware samplers and have been running Propellerheads Reason on an iBook G4. The NNXT sampler in this software is worth the price alone not to mention the customizable synths etc.But I guess it really depends on what you plan to do. A firend runs Reason using rewire with protools without a hitch as well. this gives him the ability for live tracks vocals etc. I personally will record vocals with garageband and then chop them with recycle and back into reason and sequence where i want etc.I guesss it comes down to what your needs are and how you like to work.Ive always used akai MPC workstations and reason by far blows them away.