Any great book on sound recording? at DVinfo.net

Alex Cano · November 3rd, 2004, 09:46 AM

I've learned the hard way how important good production sound is for a movie, and I would like to learn a lot more about the art of production recording, in different on-set situations.

Has anyone read "PRODUCING GREAT SOUND FOR DIGITAL VIDEO"?

Can anyone recommed this or another book?

Thank you all very much.

Alex

Douglas Spotted Eagle · November 3rd, 2004, 11:46 AM

There is nothing out there about on-set recording that's much good. Jay Rose *touches* on this , but doesn't go into depth. "Location Sound" whose author I've forgotten, is a pretty good book at certain levels too. I touch on this in my books, but again, I don't go as deeply as could be.
Perhaps it's time for a book on sound recording on sets and different situations, eh?

Alex Cano · November 3rd, 2004, 12:47 PM

Most definitely!

I'm doing a movie with the XL2 and mini35, my original idea was to get a good mike like the ME66 on a boom pole, connecting it to the back XLR ports, and recording sound in the camera, but browsing this forum and some others it seems that this is not the best idea, and want ot learn what the best configuration would be for a DV film... maybe I should start a different thread on the subject...

Jose di Cani · November 3rd, 2004, 01:30 PM

If you want the best audio quality, buuy something like a markanz or a DAT recorder. Even better, a LABTOP with a good soundcard (usb/firewire or line ouput/input with profesional convertors; MAUDIO makes fine musicians soundcards).

With an external recorder yOu can control the audio manually and if you need , add a limiter or compressor to the channel. IF you need more than 2 XLR inputs (mics), you will better of with an extra mixer. so...............

xlr mic>4 channel mixer's preamp>externalrecorder (or cam)

NOwwww....now another issue. If you want the most dynamic and profesional sound, you NEED a profesional PREAMP. The preamps on the cam xl2 are not bad, but they can be better. The preamp on the mixer (cheap mixers) are pretty good, but......the best preamp can be found on preamps like the Focusrite products. They have preampt with compressor and limiters to it, so you will not have to worry for distorted recordings. These focusrite products are the best. I heard about a great not expensive preamp and comrpessor in one, called the RNC (really nice compressor). Great reviews about this one. I will buy one myself. so......

xlr > profesional preamp with comrpessor/EQ build in > external recorder (or cam)

Alex Cano · November 3rd, 2004, 01:55 PM

Jose,

I didn't have to worry about this when I was going to record sound straight to the camera, but how do you synch the sound later (I'll be editing in Final Cut 4), if using a DAT or other external recording?

Please pardon my ignorance, it's just that I only have experience synching sound on film in a Moviola...

Thanks!

November 3rd, 2004, 09:46 AM	#1
Alex Cano Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 33	Any great book on sound recording? I've learned the hard way how important good production sound is for a movie, and I would like to learn a lot more about the art of production recording, in different on-set situations. Has anyone read "PRODUCING GREAT SOUND FOR DIGITAL VIDEO"? Can anyone recommed this or another book? Thank you all very much. Alex

November 3rd, 2004, 11:46 AM	#2
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	There is nothing out there about on-set recording that's much good. Jay Rose touches on this , but doesn't go into depth. "Location Sound" whose author I've forgotten, is a pretty good book at certain levels too. I touch on this in my books, but again, I don't go as deeply as could be. Perhaps it's time for a book on sound recording on sets and different situations, eh? __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

November 3rd, 2004, 12:47 PM	#3
Alex Cano Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 33	Most definitely! I'm doing a movie with the XL2 and mini35, my original idea was to get a good mike like the ME66 on a boom pole, connecting it to the back XLR ports, and recording sound in the camera, but browsing this forum and some others it seems that this is not the best idea, and want ot learn what the best configuration would be for a DV film... maybe I should start a different thread on the subject...

November 3rd, 2004, 01:30 PM	#4
Jose di Cani Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Holland, Europe Posts: 214	If you want the best audio quality, buuy something like a markanz or a DAT recorder. Even better, a LABTOP with a good soundcard (usb/firewire or line ouput/input with profesional convertors; MAUDIO makes fine musicians soundcards). With an external recorder yOu can control the audio manually and if you need , add a limiter or compressor to the channel. IF you need more than 2 XLR inputs (mics), you will better of with an extra mixer. so............... xlr mic>4 channel mixer's preamp>externalrecorder (or cam) NOwwww....now another issue. If you want the most dynamic and profesional sound, you NEED a profesional PREAMP. The preamps on the cam xl2 are not bad, but they can be better. The preamp on the mixer (cheap mixers) are pretty good, but......the best preamp can be found on preamps like the Focusrite products. They have preampt with compressor and limiters to it, so you will not have to worry for distorted recordings. These focusrite products are the best. I heard about a great not expensive preamp and comrpessor in one, called the RNC (really nice compressor). Great reviews about this one. I will buy one myself. so...... xlr > profesional preamp with comrpessor/EQ build in > external recorder (or cam)

November 3rd, 2004, 01:55 PM	#5
Alex Cano Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 33	Jose, I didn't have to worry about this when I was going to record sound straight to the camera, but how do you synch the sound later (I'll be editing in Final Cut 4), if using a DAT or other external recording? Please pardon my ignorance, it's just that I only have experience synching sound on film in a Moviola... Thanks!