Boom vs. Camera mounted for mockumentary at DVinfo.net

Joel Fish · June 17th, 2004, 11:58 PM

I have an Azden SGM-2X that I'll be using in conjunction with a Panasonic DVX-100p to shoot a short mockumentary. I'd really like to eliminate the sound guy position so I can work as a one-man crew.

I'll be shooting one person in one environment (an apartment). Could I get away with a camera-mounted mic and get a good result? How much better would it be to use a boom operator? (especially considering I don't know anyone who is specifically familiar with audio-for-video, and I'm reluctant to spend money on someone who does...)

Mucho thanks guys!

Oleg Kaizerman · June 18th, 2004, 06:19 AM

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Michael Wisniewski · June 18th, 2004, 09:47 AM

You can get away without a sound guy, but you'll have to plan it out to get the best sound.

The easiest way is to just do a straight interview with the cam fairly close up and use that as the sound track. Then get footage, where you and the subject are free to move about the room, and mix it all up in the edit.

Cheap wired lavs like the ATR35s have a long enough cable for most apartments and lets you get the mic right up close to the subject - while still leaving the camera free to move around. You can have both the Azden and the ATR35s attached.

You could also try planting mics around the room, out of sight of your shot. It takes a little more planning and some booms, stands, and clips.

And if you've got Vegas - use the noise reduction feature - it's like modern day magic :-)

Joel Fish · June 18th, 2004, 12:17 PM

<<<<Originally posted by Michael Wisniewski : You can get away without a sound guy, but you'll have to plan it out to get the best sound.

The easiest way is to just do a straight interview with the cam fairly close up and use that as the sound track. Then get footage, where you and the subject are free to move about the room, and mix it all up in the edit.

Cheap wired lavs like the ATR35s have a long enough cable for most apartments and lets you get the mic right up close to the subject - while still leaving the camera free to move around. You can have both the Azden and the ATR35s attached.

You could also try planting mics around the room, out of site of your shot. It takes a little more planning and some booms, stands, and clips.

And if you've got Vegas - use of the noise reduction feature - it's like modern day magic :-) >>>>

Ahhh the cheap wired lav idea is perfect! That's often what they do in documentaries anyway, so why didn't I think of it?? Oh yeah, that's right, I know almost nothing about video sound! Thank you good sir!

June 17th, 2004, 11:58 PM	#1
Joel Fish New Boot Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: a bc Posts: 13	Boom vs. Camera mounted for mockumentary I have an Azden SGM-2X that I'll be using in conjunction with a Panasonic DVX-100p to shoot a short mockumentary. I'd really like to eliminate the sound guy position so I can work as a one-man crew. I'll be shooting one person in one environment (an apartment). Could I get away with a camera-mounted mic and get a good result? How much better would it be to use a boom operator? (especially considering I don't know anyone who is specifically familiar with audio-for-video, and I'm reluctant to spend money on someone who does...) Mucho thanks guys!

June 18th, 2004, 06:19 AM	#2
Oleg Kaizerman Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: israel Posts: 296	put a add on this forum to find someone who can bring you good resolts http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_q=rec.arts.movies.production.sound most of soundmn have their own gear which can solv you most of your problems good things cost money -good people would save your ass

June 18th, 2004, 09:47 AM	#3
Michael Wisniewski Wrangler Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Makati, Metro Manila Posts: 2,706 Images: 32	You can get away without a sound guy, but you'll have to plan it out to get the best sound. The easiest way is to just do a straight interview with the cam fairly close up and use that as the sound track. Then get footage, where you and the subject are free to move about the room, and mix it all up in the edit. Cheap wired lavs like the ATR35s have a long enough cable for most apartments and lets you get the mic right up close to the subject - while still leaving the camera free to move around. You can have both the Azden and the ATR35s attached. You could also try planting mics around the room, out of sight of your shot. It takes a little more planning and some booms, stands, and clips. And if you've got Vegas - use the noise reduction feature - it's like modern day magic :-)

June 18th, 2004, 12:17 PM	#4
Joel Fish New Boot Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: a bc Posts: 13	<<<<Originally posted by Michael Wisniewski : You can get away without a sound guy, but you'll have to plan it out to get the best sound. The easiest way is to just do a straight interview with the cam fairly close up and use that as the sound track. Then get footage, where you and the subject are free to move about the room, and mix it all up in the edit. Cheap wired lavs like the ATR35s have a long enough cable for most apartments and lets you get the mic right up close to the subject - while still leaving the camera free to move around. You can have both the Azden and the ATR35s attached. You could also try planting mics around the room, out of site of your shot. It takes a little more planning and some booms, stands, and clips. And if you've got Vegas - use of the noise reduction feature - it's like modern day magic :-) >>>> Ahhh the cheap wired lav idea is perfect! That's often what they do in documentaries anyway, so why didn't I think of it?? Oh yeah, that's right, I know almost nothing about video sound! Thank you good sir!