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Old June 3rd, 2004, 08:16 PM   #16
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We also have to take into account the signal level. Sometimes mics are not hot enough to get a good signal at the camera's optimal volume settings. That's when a preamp (Which is what some people often mean when they say mixer) is necessary otherwise your audio will suffer.

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Old June 4th, 2004, 01:26 AM   #17
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The NT4 produces a strong enough signal for the DVX100 without needing a Pre-amp.
I was quite happy with the sound of the NT4, for classical music. I was using the M-audio USB duo, which has very similar specifications to the firewire 410.
Eventually I upgraded from the NT4 to Schoeps, which do sound much better, but cost about $2,000. And then you need a better pre-amp and AD converter to do them justice. That's at least another $1,000.
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Old June 4th, 2004, 02:24 AM   #18
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Patrik,

To what Schoeps setup did you upgrade to? X/Y? M/S using Colette series mics or CCM mics?

Did you mount them on a mic stand or tripod or on the camera (sorry for asking that) or is it a hand held mic setup? What accessories are you using to keep the M & S mics togerther (if you use M/S stereo)?
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Old June 4th, 2004, 12:26 PM   #19
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I have 2 CMC6 bodies, 1 MK8 figure of 8 capsule, 1 MK41 hypercardioid capsule and 1 MK4 cardioid capsule.
I almost always record M/S stereo, using the MK8 with either the MK4 or the MK41 if I want a narrower angle.
I have the 2 microphones on top of each other, separated by 2 pieces of cork board, mounted in an Audio Technica AT8415 shockmount.
For serious music recording I have them mounted high up, e.g about 3 or 4 metres on a lighting stand, usually about 3 metres in front of the performers. Or, if the lighting stand is too obtrusive, I use a fixed boom pole on a lighting stand at the side.

I have also used the MS pair mounted in the same shockmount directly on my DVX100. But a camera mounted microphone is almost always too far away from the subject to give the best sound.
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Old June 4th, 2004, 02:50 PM   #20
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Have you been pretty happy with that 8415?
How do you put two mics in it?
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Old June 4th, 2004, 05:08 PM   #21
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The 8415 has been fine for me. I just push the two microphones together through the rubber bands, as though it was a single mic, and then put the cork between them, just to hold them apart, as I don't have the proper piggy back clips.
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Old June 4th, 2004, 05:38 PM   #22
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Manfred Klemme of K-Tek has a figure 8 polymer mount that allows you to piggyback two shoeps mics.

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Old June 5th, 2004, 02:12 AM   #23
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Bryan,
The K-tek mount looks very nice. Did you try the AT mount first? In what way do you find the K-tek better?
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Old June 5th, 2004, 08:59 AM   #24
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I haven't tried the double mount but i do own a k-tek and an 8415. The convenience of the double mount without the "fiddly bits" would be great. I'll email you a jpg that Manfred sent me.
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