mic recommendations for loud venues

Battle Vaughan · July 20th, 2009, 10:42 AM

Thanks for the feedback! I looked at the tracks from your ntg2_test and akg_test files and it looks, as you would expect from what is primarily an instrument mike, the AKG has a more responsive diaphragm, which would probably make it brighter than the Rode, and thus the Rode a happier fit with a male voice, just subjectively.

I attach a sample from the very first part of the clips....you can see what I'm talking about, I think, although I'm not sure how the normalization may have affected the results...

btw, the diaphragm on instrument mikes is usually right up front, if you use it as a vocal mike be sure to use a windscreen to keep breath moisture out of it, condenser mikes hate that....best wishes / Battle Vaughan

Vito DeFilippo · July 20th, 2009, 12:13 PM

Hey Battle,

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which would probably make it brighter than the Rode, and thus the Rode a happier fit with a male voice, just subjectively.

Actually, I found the Rode to be brighter. Or at least to reproduce my voice better. But I'm far from being a good audio guy, so I'm not the most accurate listener.

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Originally Posted by Battle Vaughan

I attach a sample from the very first part of the clips....you can see what I'm talking about

Am I looking at the amplitude of the response in your graph? That is, the small variations in the line? As you say, looks greater in the AKG.

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btw, the diaphragm on instrument mikes is usually right up front, if you use it as a vocal mike be sure to use a windscreen to keep breath moisture out of it, condenser mikes hate that....best wishes / Battle Vaughan

Thanks, I'll remember that. I did notice the AKG being much more senstive to popping in my little test.

Anyway, I sure learned a lot from this experience. Thanks for all your help, and for taking the time to listen, etc.

Cheers!

Battle Vaughan · July 20th, 2009, 01:02 PM

Yes, regular waveform with amplitude vs. time....this is Audacity, a free audio program for windoze and Mac, which is worth having; I have Soundtrack Pro, Soundforge 9 and Soundbooth and I still use this open-source jobbie all the time...Audacity: Free Audio Editor and Recorder

Hope this works out for you, I enjoyed hearing your tracks. Hope you invest in some good earplugs for those loud venues...:) / Battle Vaughan

Vito DeFilippo · July 20th, 2009, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Battle Vaughan

Hope you invest in some good earplugs for those loud venues...:)

Tell me about it. I bought a pair of in-ear headphones that reduce by about 30db what comes in your ears, and lets me monitor at the same time. They're a lifesaver.

Jon Fairhurst · July 20th, 2009, 01:57 PM

Vito, you can take it to the next level by wearing noise-cancellation headphones over your in-ears. Don't give them a signal, just let them reduce the ambient sounds even further. Just shop for good cancellation; since you won't feed them a signal, you don't have to worry about sound quality.

Vito DeFilippo · July 20th, 2009, 03:25 PM

Thanks, Jon.

Rob Morse · July 20th, 2009, 09:04 PM

Just for information purposes, I bought a Shure SM57, put a Sennheiser tranmitter on it and stuck it on a mic stand by the DJ speaker and it sounded awesome. It wasn't in my typical loud environment but it was close.

July 20th, 2009, 10:42 AM	#16
Battle Vaughan Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami, FL USA Posts: 1,505	Thanks for the feedback! I looked at the tracks from your ntg2_test and akg_test files and it looks, as you would expect from what is primarily an instrument mike, the AKG has a more responsive diaphragm, which would probably make it brighter than the Rode, and thus the Rode a happier fit with a male voice, just subjectively. I attach a sample from the very first part of the clips....you can see what I'm talking about, I think, although I'm not sure how the normalization may have affected the results... btw, the diaphragm on instrument mikes is usually right up front, if you use it as a vocal mike be sure to use a windscreen to keep breath moisture out of it, condenser mikes hate that....best wishes / Battle Vaughan Attached Thumbnails

July 20th, 2009, 01:57 PM	#20
Jon Fairhurst Inner Circle Join Date: May 2006 Location: Camas, WA, USA Posts: 5,513	Vito, you can take it to the next level by wearing noise-cancellation headphones over your in-ears. Don't give them a signal, just let them reduce the ambient sounds even further. Just shop for good cancellation; since you won't feed them a signal, you don't have to worry about sound quality. __________________ Jon Fairhurst

July 20th, 2009, 03:25 PM	#21
Vito DeFilippo Trustee Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 1,585	Thanks, Jon. __________________ . http://www.nosmallroles.com

July 20th, 2009, 01:02 PM	#18
Battle Vaughan Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami, FL USA Posts: 1,505	Yes, regular waveform with amplitude vs. time....this is Audacity, a free audio program for windoze and Mac, which is worth having; I have Soundtrack Pro, Soundforge 9 and Soundbooth and I still use this open-source jobbie all the time...Audacity: Free Audio Editor and Recorder Hope this works out for you, I enjoyed hearing your tracks. Hope you invest in some good earplugs for those loud venues...:) / Battle Vaughan

July 20th, 2009, 09:04 PM	#22
Rob Morse Major Player Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 427	Just for information purposes, I bought a Shure SM57, put a Sennheiser tranmitter on it and stuck it on a mic stand by the DJ speaker and it sounded awesome. It wasn't in my typical loud environment but it was close.