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Amos Kim · April 18th, 2009, 04:22 PM

So I'm trying to combine a ntg 3 for outdoors and mk012 for indoors for short films. I was wondering if anyone had any opinion about this combo... would the two work well in terms of compatible quality of sound, or would the ntg3 be much more superior to the point where one would notice a sound quality discrepancy moving from indoor scene to outdoor scene?

thanks

Rick Reineke · April 18th, 2009, 06:47 PM

All other components being the same, I would anticipate no problems due to those mics. Indoors and outdoors are so different anyway.

I use AT 40 series shotguns and (Sound Room) Oktava without issue.

Dana Love · April 18th, 2009, 06:53 PM

I use NTG-2 and the MK012. There's a little finesse to blend the sounds, though I'm discovering there is no limit to the complexity of audio. They both sound great, and sound very credible together.

Chris Swanberg · April 18th, 2009, 08:01 PM

Like Dana I use the NTG-2 and MK-012 and thinkg they are both great. I think they play together nicely. IF (!) we assume the NTG-3 has similar sound characteristics... you should be fine.

Amos Kim · April 19th, 2009, 01:49 AM

what accessories do you use with the oktava? I hear it's very sensitive and needs some precautionary accessories.

Toenis Liivamaegi · April 19th, 2009, 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amos Kim

what accessories do you use with the oktava? I hear it's very sensitive and needs some precautionary accessories.

Rycote - InVision Suspension (really cheap)

I'm using NTG3 and Oktava too - but I've found that NTG3 is usable in about every situation and the Oktava stays in the bag - that is I've never been recording in really tight rooms. Specially for novce boom ops the NTG3 is more forgiving.

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Amos Kim · April 19th, 2009, 04:12 AM

Thanks for reply Toenis. I'm thinking for tight rooms, oktava would be better choice than the rode. Anyways, how is the ntg3? I hear it's amazing.

btw my favorite foreign film takes place in estonia... lilja 4 ever... very powerful sad film.

Rick Reineke · April 19th, 2009, 05:18 PM

"what accessories do you use with the oktava? I hear it's very sensitive and needs some precautionary accessories."

Yes, that's one of the the weak points of the Oktava 012. They are prone to handling and wind noise... Quality control is another issue, counterfeits aside.

They need a really good shock mount to attenuate the handling noise. However in "normal" indoors situations, a foam windscreen should suffice unless you whip it around.

The Rycote Softie system shock mount is pretty much useless with the 012 for boom work.
I would look for an elastic band type mount. Though I have not tried the newer Rycote InVision.

Chris Swanberg · April 19th, 2009, 10:11 PM

I agree with Rick... a slim rubber band type of suspension is best. The Mk-012 is a terrific interior hypercardiod, but it does pick up handling noise pretty easily.

As an interior mic... you really do not need any foam wind protection though I made one of of open cell foam for mine... but rarely use it.

ps. If you have not had your Oktava modded, do it.

Toenis Liivamaegi · April 20th, 2009, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Swanberg

I agree with Rick... a slim rubber band type of suspension is best. The Mk-012 is a terrific interior hypercardiod, but it does pick up handling noise pretty easily.

No no no :), Rycote InVision is much better than any rubber band mount when used indoors and without full wind protection. I'd recommend that one that fits NTG3 too.

Amos, the NTG3 really is a terriffic mic. I had one with sub 300 serial number last summer that was faulty and it was replaced directly from Australia and it came back with S/N 2500.

Amos Kim · April 20th, 2009, 01:02 PM

hey chris, what kind of mod, and where do I get it done? Toenis, I'm a newbie to sound, can you list all the accessories u would recommend to use the ntg3 and oktava? thanks for your help guys.

Rick Reineke · April 20th, 2009, 04:05 PM

The "Dorcey" modification
http://www.billsrecording.com/BSRS/Mod012.html I think Bill's sells the kit and service on e-bay too.

www.oktavamod.com (Micheal Jolly).

Amos Kim · April 26th, 2009, 05:17 PM

thanks rick

Chris Swanberg · April 27th, 2009, 09:24 AM

Bill's Recording service did mine....but the mod is more or less the same by either... I'd shop on pricepoint. I was quite pleased with the quick turnaround and responsiveness I got using Bill Sitler though.

Amos Kim · May 18th, 2009, 05:53 PM

Anyone know if the RODE SM3 Shockmount would hold the oktava?

April 18th, 2009, 04:22 PM	#1
Amos Kim Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 335	rode ntg3 and oktava mk012 So I'm trying to combine a ntg 3 for outdoors and mk012 for indoors for short films. I was wondering if anyone had any opinion about this combo... would the two work well in terms of compatible quality of sound, or would the ntg3 be much more superior to the point where one would notice a sound quality discrepancy moving from indoor scene to outdoor scene? thanks

April 18th, 2009, 06:47 PM	#2
Rick Reineke Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: New York Posts: 2,039	All other components being the same, I would anticipate no problems due to those mics. Indoors and outdoors are so different anyway. I use AT 40 series shotguns and (Sound Room) Oktava without issue.

April 18th, 2009, 06:53 PM	#3
Dana Love Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Chesterfield, VA Posts: 63	I use NTG-2 and the MK012. There's a little finesse to blend the sounds, though I'm discovering there is no limit to the complexity of audio. They both sound great, and sound very credible together.

April 18th, 2009, 08:01 PM	#4
Chris Swanberg Major Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 904	Like Dana I use the NTG-2 and MK-012 and thinkg they are both great. I think they play together nicely. IF (!) we assume the NTG-3 has similar sound characteristics... you should be fine.

April 19th, 2009, 01:49 AM	#5
Amos Kim Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 335	what accessories do you use with the oktava? I hear it's very sensitive and needs some precautionary accessories.

April 19th, 2009, 04:12 AM	#7
Amos Kim Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 335	Thanks for reply Toenis. I'm thinking for tight rooms, oktava would be better choice than the rode. Anyways, how is the ntg3? I hear it's amazing. btw my favorite foreign film takes place in estonia... lilja 4 ever... very powerful sad film.

April 19th, 2009, 05:18 PM	#8
Rick Reineke Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: New York Posts: 2,039	"what accessories do you use with the oktava? I hear it's very sensitive and needs some precautionary accessories." Yes, that's one of the the weak points of the Oktava 012. They are prone to handling and wind noise... Quality control is another issue, counterfeits aside. They need a really good shock mount to attenuate the handling noise. However in "normal" indoors situations, a foam windscreen should suffice unless you whip it around. The Rycote Softie system shock mount is pretty much useless with the 012 for boom work. I would look for an elastic band type mount. Though I have not tried the newer Rycote InVision.

April 19th, 2009, 10:11 PM	#9
Chris Swanberg Major Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 904	I agree with Rick... a slim rubber band type of suspension is best. The Mk-012 is a terrific interior hypercardiod, but it does pick up handling noise pretty easily. As an interior mic... you really do not need any foam wind protection though I made one of of open cell foam for mine... but rarely use it. ps. If you have not had your Oktava modded, do it.

April 20th, 2009, 01:02 PM	#11
Amos Kim Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 335	hey chris, what kind of mod, and where do I get it done? Toenis, I'm a newbie to sound, can you list all the accessories u would recommend to use the ntg3 and oktava? thanks for your help guys.

April 20th, 2009, 04:05 PM	#12
Rick Reineke Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: New York Posts: 2,039	The "Dorcey" modification http://www.billsrecording.com/BSRS/Mod012.html I think Bill's sells the kit and service on e-bay too. www.oktavamod.com (Micheal Jolly).

April 26th, 2009, 05:17 PM	#13
Amos Kim Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 335	thanks rick

April 27th, 2009, 09:24 AM	#14
Chris Swanberg Major Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 904	Bill's Recording service did mine....but the mod is more or less the same by either... I'd shop on pricepoint. I was quite pleased with the quick turnaround and responsiveness I got using Bill Sitler though.

May 18th, 2009, 05:53 PM	#15
Amos Kim Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 335	Anyone know if the RODE SM3 Shockmount would hold the oktava?