Oh yeah here comes another newbie ??? at DVinfo.net

Philippe Gosselin · January 26th, 2004, 03:21 PM

Well, i'm just starting on camera and video and now I realise that i have to learn the audio as well ....

So i started to hunt for micros , first by searching here and then through several manufacturer websites and MAN.... I am so lost : )

You have omni micros, dynamic , non-dynamic, tailored , connectors of any kind, not counting brands of course.

So anybody knows a good webpage that has definition of audio terms , that should be a good start i guess.

Also , looking for a mic for my GL2 , would like to have a multipuposed one , good for indoors/outdoors , live concert , interviews so on.... which one is the best ???

Your help will be very,very appreciated

Thanks guys

Aaron Koolen · January 26th, 2004, 03:41 PM

Philippe, welcome, and I hope that you find delving into audio to be as interesting as I do. One thing I would recommend to you, is to get a good book like Jay Rose's "Producing Great Sound for Digital Video". It will give you a vast amount of knowledge on the subject, especially for a beginner like yourself./

Aaron

Mike Rehmus · January 26th, 2004, 03:43 PM

Be certain you get the second edition. It has slightly more information than the first version.

Philippe Gosselin · January 26th, 2004, 04:39 PM

thanks a bunch guys ,

my wallet is emptying itself by the minute here ;)

Bryan Beasleigh · January 26th, 2004, 05:32 PM

Philippe
Resistance is futile, your wallet will be empty from now on.

Philippe Gosselin · January 27th, 2004, 03:34 PM

I guess this is the price to pay for glory ;) , I surrender

It actually started this summer with me working two jobs and pulling 24 of work on fridays and then BANG ..... bought the camera and the wallet was empty HIHIHIHIHI

I'll hang on don't worry ;)

See ya

Joe Kras · January 28th, 2004, 11:39 AM

Reading Jay's book will actually initially save you money, as you won't be wasting your money on stuff that either won't work, or that you don't need.

Unfortunately, as Beaser can tell you, the more you begin to appreciate better audio, the more money you want to spend on stuff that will give improvements, and your cash drain will then increase.

As to the original question of what mike to get, there is no one "supermike". Audio specialists (I am not one) often own many mikes, all of which are optimal for different situations (i.e., vocals vs. instruments, indoors vs. outdoors, noisy environment vs. studio, etc.).

A mediocre mike close to the subject will sound better than a great mike 20 feet away.

Many people like the Sennheiser ME66/K6 shotgun for use with their DV cams, but Matt Gettemeier seems to be getting very good results with a less pricey mike, the Octava 012. But generally speaking, you get what you pay for, and anything less than $400 American will be somewhat compromised.

Peruse the board, as much has been written.

Good luck!

Joe

Philippe Gosselin · January 28th, 2004, 02:01 PM

Thanks a lot Joe for that insightful info. That sennheiser seems to come up pretty often so I will check it up first . Oh yeah you get what you paid for. I just imagine myself with something else than the GL2 for a camera and I go nuts ;)

400$ US !!!!!!!!! , boy they are pricey indeed. That's like 600$ canadian.

Kudos for the time you all took to help me here. I'm going to the audio store tomorrow (the salesman i got on the phone sounded as crazy on audio as i am on video)

So may the force be with me ;)

See ya

Phil

January 26th, 2004, 03:21 PM	#1
Philippe Gosselin Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Montreal , Canada Posts: 197	Oh yeah here comes another newbie ??? Well, i'm just starting on camera and video and now I realise that i have to learn the audio as well .... So i started to hunt for micros , first by searching here and then through several manufacturer websites and MAN.... I am so lost : ) You have omni micros, dynamic , non-dynamic, tailored , connectors of any kind, not counting brands of course. So anybody knows a good webpage that has definition of audio terms , that should be a good start i guess. Also , looking for a mic for my GL2 , would like to have a multipuposed one , good for indoors/outdoors , live concert , interviews so on.... which one is the best ??? Your help will be very,very appreciated Thanks guys

January 26th, 2004, 03:41 PM	#2
Aaron Koolen Trustee Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 1,727	Philippe, welcome, and I hope that you find delving into audio to be as interesting as I do. One thing I would recommend to you, is to get a good book like Jay Rose's "Producing Great Sound for Digital Video". It will give you a vast amount of knowledge on the subject, especially for a beginner like yourself./ Aaron __________________ My Website Meat Free Media

January 26th, 2004, 03:43 PM	#3
Mike Rehmus Wrangler Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vallejo, California Posts: 4,049	Be certain you get the second edition. It has slightly more information than the first version. __________________ Mike Rehmus Hey, I can see the carrot at the end of the tunnel!

January 26th, 2004, 04:39 PM	#4
Philippe Gosselin Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Montreal , Canada Posts: 197	thanks a bunch guys , my wallet is emptying itself by the minute here ;)

January 26th, 2004, 05:32 PM	#5
Bryan Beasleigh Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,922	Philippe Resistance is futile, your wallet will be empty from now on.

January 27th, 2004, 03:34 PM	#6
Philippe Gosselin Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Montreal , Canada Posts: 197	I guess this is the price to pay for glory ;) , I surrender It actually started this summer with me working two jobs and pulling 24 of work on fridays and then BANG ..... bought the camera and the wallet was empty HIHIHIHIHI I'll hang on don't worry ;) See ya

January 28th, 2004, 11:39 AM	#7
Joe Kras Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 54	Reading Jay's book will actually initially save you money, as you won't be wasting your money on stuff that either won't work, or that you don't need. Unfortunately, as Beaser can tell you, the more you begin to appreciate better audio, the more money you want to spend on stuff that will give improvements, and your cash drain will then increase. As to the original question of what mike to get, there is no one "supermike". Audio specialists (I am not one) often own many mikes, all of which are optimal for different situations (i.e., vocals vs. instruments, indoors vs. outdoors, noisy environment vs. studio, etc.). A mediocre mike close to the subject will sound better than a great mike 20 feet away. Many people like the Sennheiser ME66/K6 shotgun for use with their DV cams, but Matt Gettemeier seems to be getting very good results with a less pricey mike, the Octava 012. But generally speaking, you get what you pay for, and anything less than $400 American will be somewhat compromised. Peruse the board, as much has been written. Good luck! Joe

January 28th, 2004, 02:01 PM	#8
Philippe Gosselin Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Montreal , Canada Posts: 197	Thanks a lot Joe for that insightful info. That sennheiser seems to come up pretty often so I will check it up first . Oh yeah you get what you paid for. I just imagine myself with something else than the GL2 for a camera and I go nuts ;) 400$ US !!!!!!!!! , boy they are pricey indeed. That's like 600$ canadian. Kudos for the time you all took to help me here. I'm going to the audio store tomorrow (the salesman i got on the phone sounded as crazy on audio as i am on video) So may the force be with me ;) See ya Phil