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Arthur To · December 3rd, 2003, 05:21 PM

wen i watch like.. bmw films and i hear clive owen speak... my bass system is so full of his voice.

is that in post or is it the mic?

and wen i film something its all trebley and stuff (full of highs)

how do i get that deep sound?

and which mic do you recommend for recording voices even when they whisper...

example:
Matrix:
"you're empty.."
"so are you"

it was almost broken to a whisper but still heard perfectly.

anyone got any idea which mic helps me with that?

thx
-arthur

Mike Rehmus · December 4th, 2003, 01:26 PM

Somewhat expensive microphones, pre-amps and a good recorder. All with low noise.

Go to a pro sound shop and tell them what you want to do. Define your budget first or be prepared for them to serve you a double-helping of Sticker-shock.

Gints Klimanis · December 4th, 2003, 02:54 PM

Go for Mike's recommendations first.
If it's too late, consider some of the following suggestions for post production. Most microphones have a poor low frequency response, until, of course, you overload the microphone. Consider boosting the low frequencies with a low frequency shelving filter, a common plugin for video editing programs (FCP, Vegas) This shouldn't
add too much noise because only a small band of frequencies is increased in level. It would be more accurate to mimic the formant curve of the speaker (person), but such analysis is not available for most. Another option is to synthesize a low frequency harmonic, but I've never tried this on voice. It works quite well on synthesizers and guitars. I've never seen a plug-in for this, but it should be quite simply.

Arthur To · December 4th, 2003, 04:00 PM

how bout a sennheiser me66 hooked up to my xl1s directly? probably not that sound huh? and could i MAKE it boom during post?

-arthur

December 4th, 2003, 04:05 PM

The audio is imported into audio mixer then aplified through the computer and then exported out then set as an AC3 file to which it then import into the video.

Martin Garrison · December 4th, 2003, 04:21 PM

There is a plugin called MaxBass, it creates upward harmonics from a low frequency, so that bass will be apparent even on systems that cant deliver the bass response of the source.

The lowest end of human voice is around 100HZ, your me66 is starting to fall off there, but should be able to capture it. Sweep an eq boost from 100 to 200 until you find the sweet spot, then bring it back down to a modest bump(3-5db). Keep in mind this may make your dialogue less clear. The bass will add a muddy quality, particularly on lower end speakers.

Peter Jefferson · December 6th, 2003, 11:13 PM

Antares also have a DX plaugin called Microphone Modeller.
the way it works is that you select your source mic from a list, then select the type of mic you woudl liek tit sound like. the plug will then adjust the output which can make a tinny piece of crap mic sound like a $3000 shure beast...

December 3rd, 2003, 05:21 PM	#1
Arthur To Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Cerritos, CA Posts: 78	how to get that bass wen i watch like.. bmw films and i hear clive owen speak... my bass system is so full of his voice. is that in post or is it the mic? and wen i film something its all trebley and stuff (full of highs) how do i get that deep sound? and which mic do you recommend for recording voices even when they whisper... example: Matrix: "you're empty.." "so are you" it was almost broken to a whisper but still heard perfectly. anyone got any idea which mic helps me with that? thx -arthur __________________ xL1s

December 4th, 2003, 01:26 PM	#2
Mike Rehmus Wrangler Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vallejo, California Posts: 4,049	Somewhat expensive microphones, pre-amps and a good recorder. All with low noise. Go to a pro sound shop and tell them what you want to do. Define your budget first or be prepared for them to serve you a double-helping of Sticker-shock. __________________ Mike Rehmus Hey, I can see the carrot at the end of the tunnel!

December 4th, 2003, 04:00 PM	#4
Arthur To Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Cerritos, CA Posts: 78	how bout a sennheiser me66 hooked up to my xl1s directly? probably not that sound huh? and could i MAKE it boom during post? -arthur __________________ xL1s

December 4th, 2003, 02:54 PM	#3
Gints Klimanis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,222	Go for Mike's recommendations first. If it's too late, consider some of the following suggestions for post production. Most microphones have a poor low frequency response, until, of course, you overload the microphone. Consider boosting the low frequencies with a low frequency shelving filter, a common plugin for video editing programs (FCP, Vegas) This shouldn't add too much noise because only a small band of frequencies is increased in level. It would be more accurate to mimic the formant curve of the speaker (person), but such analysis is not available for most. Another option is to synthesize a low frequency harmonic, but I've never tried this on voice. It works quite well on synthesizers and guitars. I've never seen a plug-in for this, but it should be quite simply.

December 4th, 2003, 04:05 PM	#5
Guest Posts: n/a	The audio is imported into audio mixer then aplified through the computer and then exported out then set as an AC3 file to which it then import into the video.

December 4th, 2003, 04:21 PM	#6
Martin Garrison Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 173	There is a plugin called MaxBass, it creates upward harmonics from a low frequency, so that bass will be apparent even on systems that cant deliver the bass response of the source. The lowest end of human voice is around 100HZ, your me66 is starting to fall off there, but should be able to capture it. Sweep an eq boost from 100 to 200 until you find the sweet spot, then bring it back down to a modest bump(3-5db). Keep in mind this may make your dialogue less clear. The bass will add a muddy quality, particularly on lower end speakers.

December 6th, 2003, 11:13 PM	#7
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	Antares also have a DX plaugin called Microphone Modeller. the way it works is that you select your source mic from a list, then select the type of mic you woudl liek tit sound like. the plug will then adjust the output which can make a tinny piece of crap mic sound like a $3000 shure beast...