Creating the phone conversation at DVinfo.net

Ong Wan Shu · November 21st, 2003, 09:27 AM

hi all,

Let me describe the scene first.

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Close up of phone

Phone rang.

Guy picks up phone

Guy "Hello"

Gal "hi Guy"
----------------------------

I would like to, in the end product to hear the "real" voice of guy BUT hear the "phone" voice of gal.

My question is during the shoot, can i record both the guy and the gal's part at the same time AND manipulate the gal's voice to create that "phone" voice? If so, how do i do it with Premiere 6 or FCP3?

If the above option is not possible, I would have to record the gal's voice in another believable location rather than the same location as the guyt scene, it would saves me a lot of trouble.

Thanks!!

Richard Alvarez · November 21st, 2003, 09:50 AM

Yeah, just record their voices on location. In the editing suite, apply a graphic equalizer filter to get the "Phone sound". In avid, there's a couple of filters called phone, probably the same in FCP and Premiere

Mike Butler · November 21st, 2003, 06:40 PM

In FCP, just use one of the equalizers or band pass filter to boost the mids and attenuate the highs and lows. Experiment with the center frequency, try 2k-2500Hz for a start.

Peter Jefferson · November 24th, 2003, 06:26 AM

once you apply the filter, u can also resample it to 14kz, this will give that richer authentic fone flavour :)

Barry Gribble · November 24th, 2003, 07:57 AM

I had to get a good phone sound for my last production, and the filtering just wasn't perfect to me... so I ended up having the actors phone in their lines and I pointed the mic at the speaker phone. Nothing sounds more realistic than that. Then I put them together in post to get the final product.

If I were you, and for some reason (performance, time) really wanted them to run the dialog live, I would put the caller on a speaker phone and run it (even if the actor is holding a receiver and talking in to it, you can have the speaker phone nearby). That gives the actors something to play off of, and gives them the realism of actually talking into the phone.... and gives you that nice phone sound.

If I did'nt really really need to record both real time, I would have them record the lines separately and put them together in post... it gives you a lot more control.

Just a thought.

Good luck.

Marty Wein · November 24th, 2003, 10:46 PM

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November 21st, 2003, 09:27 AM	#1
Ong Wan Shu Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 74	Creating the phone conversation hi all, Let me describe the scene first. ----------------------------- Close up of phone Phone rang. Guy picks up phone Guy "Hello" Gal "hi Guy" ---------------------------- I would like to, in the end product to hear the "real" voice of guy BUT hear the "phone" voice of gal. My question is during the shoot, can i record both the guy and the gal's part at the same time AND manipulate the gal's voice to create that "phone" voice? If so, how do i do it with Premiere 6 or FCP3? If the above option is not possible, I would have to record the gal's voice in another believable location rather than the same location as the guyt scene, it would saves me a lot of trouble. Thanks!!

November 21st, 2003, 06:40 PM	#3
Mike Butler Machinist Mate Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Southern Connecticut Posts: 644	In FCP, just use one of the equalizers or band pass filter to boost the mids and attenuate the highs and lows. Experiment with the center frequency, try 2k-2500Hz for a start. __________________ I ain't straight outta Compton, I'm straight out the trailer. Cuss like a sailor, drink like a Mc. My only words of wisdom are just, "Radio Edit."

November 21st, 2003, 09:50 AM	#2
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	Yeah, just record their voices on location. In the editing suite, apply a graphic equalizer filter to get the "Phone sound". In avid, there's a couple of filters called phone, probably the same in FCP and Premiere

November 24th, 2003, 06:26 AM	#4
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	once you apply the filter, u can also resample it to 14kz, this will give that richer authentic fone flavour :)

November 24th, 2003, 07:57 AM	#5
Barry Gribble Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 817	I had to get a good phone sound for my last production, and the filtering just wasn't perfect to me... so I ended up having the actors phone in their lines and I pointed the mic at the speaker phone. Nothing sounds more realistic than that. Then I put them together in post to get the final product. If I were you, and for some reason (performance, time) really wanted them to run the dialog live, I would put the caller on a speaker phone and run it (even if the actor is holding a receiver and talking in to it, you can have the speaker phone nearby). That gives the actors something to play off of, and gives them the realism of actually talking into the phone.... and gives you that nice phone sound. If I did'nt really really need to record both real time, I would have them record the lines separately and put them together in post... it gives you a lot more control. Just a thought. Good luck.

November 24th, 2003, 10:46 PM	#6
Marty Wein Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 229	Check out the JK Audio THAT 1 or THAT 2 at www.jkaudio.com