me66/k6 shock mount? at DVinfo.net

Robert Butler · November 4th, 2003, 05:12 PM

I was wondering... does the Sennheiser ME66 comes with an on-camera shock mount? From the images, it looks like it only has a pole mount. I know on-camera mounting is frowned upon, but I'd like the option.

If it doesn't come with one, does anyone have suggestions as to where I could get a good shock mount? Thanks.

Rob Wilson · November 4th, 2003, 05:31 PM

Robert,

The 66/K6 combo doens't usually come with any mount at all. As a minimum, you an use a beyerdynamic EA 86 shock mount but you'll also need to budget for a windscreen if you're even thinking about using it outside. Rycote seems to have the best reputation (and of course, highest cost) but others are out there.

Bryan Beasleigh · November 4th, 2003, 06:04 PM

I use an AT8415 shock mount ($50)
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=68143&is=REG

The 8515 is versatile in that it will hold mics of .5" diameter to 2.13". the 8415 is ideal on a boom pole or a camera hot shoe.

You will need a shoe adapter to screw onto the bottom of the 8415( $10 )
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=68160&is=REG

Matthew de Jongh · December 8th, 2003, 06:01 PM

ok i've been looking at the me-66 with the k6 combo pistol grip etc.

so the at8415 would work along with the above mentioned shoe adaptor so i could put it on top of a pd-170 or dvx-100?

it says that the k6 pistol grippy thing is adaptable to a boom-pole, is there a specific mount/model that is needed? i know squat about boom poles.

matthew

Marty Wein · December 8th, 2003, 06:19 PM

Yes the AT8415 will work on any shoe mount when used with the Audio Technica shoe adapter.

Remote Audio makes a very nice grip that will attach to the shock mount (or any other mount with a 3/8 thread) and also has a thread on the bottom that will allow you to use it on a boom pole without having to remove the grip first.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...*&shs=auat8415

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...u=68160&is=REG

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=283348&is=REG

Marty Wein · December 8th, 2003, 06:23 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Matthew de Jongh : it says that the k6 pistol grippy thing is adaptable to a boom-pole, is there a specific mount/model that is needed? -->>>

I believe you reffer to the Rycote pistol grip. If so, the grip has a 3/8 thread and will mount to all popular boom poles on the market (K-Tek, VDB, Gitzo, Beyerdynamics)

Matthew de Jongh · December 8th, 2003, 06:34 PM

yeah, the rycote/me-66/k6 bundle

thanks for the links, that helps a lot. you have stuff i couldn't find on bh's site

i called on the phone to ask a few questions but they seem as though they either want you to just have the part # and be ready to order or just come down to the showroom.

i'm trying to do as much research as i can before i show up down there, because i just KNOW it will be overwelming with all the toys and gadgets there!

now i just need to find a decent bracket to hold the sennheiser wireless system on the camera. the bracket1 looks decent but kind of a clunky design.

may just have to make my own.

matthew

Marty Wein · December 8th, 2003, 06:59 PM

The Bracket 1 is not as clunky as it looks on the picture. It actually looks very good on the DVX-100 and PD-150 (I believe the PD-170 has the same footprint as the PD-150) and is only 8.2 oz.

Brian T. Young · December 8th, 2003, 10:39 PM

bracket1 is far from clunky. nice bit of kit. good price, too - the BEC piece is 200+ and on the DVX it puts your RX a long way from the XLRs.

Mike Rehmus · December 8th, 2003, 10:57 PM

Try calling Light Wave System if you want some good help. They make everything you need for the 66.

Do be careful with the length of the microphone. It can intrude into the camera's field of view. Especially with wide angle adapters.

Marty Wein · December 8th, 2003, 11:04 PM

The bracket 1 can also accommodate the BEC wireless receiver mounting boxes which protects the receiver and also looks more professional.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...x+for+Mounting

Bryan Beasleigh · December 9th, 2003, 12:13 AM

The Mini Rover will give you a very balanced grip as well a means to carry a shotgun mic and a radio receiver. See the example at the bottom of this page(link).

http://www.dvshop.ca/camera/videosmith.html

Don't let the pricing give you heart failure, it's in Canadian $. This is for illustration only. It's $50 from B&H and the adapter plate for the receiver is around $15. I can mount my AT 8415 shock mount and Velcro my Sennheiser receiver to the mini mate .

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=194070&is=REG

I use this grip on a VX2000 and it allows me to get a solid grip on the camera, with my elbows tight against my upper body. The camera moves with your upper torso. No shake at all.

The Bracket 1 is nice but you still have nothing to hang onto. Try it , you'll like it.

Do a search in Support your cam.

Matthew de Jongh · December 25th, 2003, 09:00 PM

well the rover confuses me, the grip is above the horizontal bar that connects to the tripod screw hole...

so you have your right hand on the camera in the normal position, and then you have your left hand up high to hold the handle?

this seems awkward to me.

i could see it a bit more if the handle went down from the cross bar, it bugs me that the pictures of it are never showing it in real use.

matthew

Bryan Beasleigh · December 25th, 2003, 10:31 PM

Holding a camera attached to the mighty wondercam mini rover, you will have both arms and elbows tucked into your body very tightly, forming an extremely rigid , yet flexible support.
If you search this fully I don't really know if i get any more in depth but it works. Others have verified it. Order one and take a chance.
email me at bbeasleigh at rogers dot com and we can talk.

No sense in dragging the online experience on.

Those that have tried it have always agreed.

Jay Massengill · December 26th, 2003, 11:03 AM

I agree that most users of the Mini Rover like it. However, the grip that I built out of parts works like Matthew suggests, with the vertical grip directly below the center of gravity of the whole rig.
Advantage of Mini Rover: It looks professionally made and comes ready to use and you can sit the camera directly down on a flat surface.
Advantage of my rig: It cost about $18 and is better balanced. It also takes up very little space once you unscrew the handle, which you have to do to sit the rig on a flat surface. You can also substitute longer handles for raising the camera above your head or a medium handle for use while sitting in a chair. People have also mentioned that they use a monopod to accomplish something similar but that's limited on where your center of gravity is. I have a lot of audio gear attached, so I needed to be able to shift the mounting point.
So if you like to tinker, go to a pro still-camera shop and look at all their flash brackets. I used a simple flat one and added a table-leg-bracket-plate and a rigged BMX bike grip handle so I can adapt to the center of gravity by shifting the mounting point.
If you don't like to build things yourself, buy the Mini Rover or one of the right-angle flash brackets that are similar in shape.

November 4th, 2003, 05:12 PM	#1
Robert Butler New Boot Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 7	me66/k6 shock mount? I was wondering... does the Sennheiser ME66 comes with an on-camera shock mount? From the images, it looks like it only has a pole mount. I know on-camera mounting is frowned upon, but I'd like the option. If it doesn't come with one, does anyone have suggestions as to where I could get a good shock mount? Thanks.

December 8th, 2003, 10:39 PM	#9
Brian T. Young Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 137	bracket1 is far from clunky. nice bit of kit. good price, too - the BEC piece is 200+ and on the DVX it puts your RX a long way from the XLRs. __________________ Brian Young - Los Angeles - www.FlacaProductions.com F800, F5, FS7, A7s

December 8th, 2003, 10:57 PM	#10
Mike Rehmus Wrangler Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vallejo, California Posts: 4,049	Try calling Light Wave System if you want some good help. They make everything you need for the 66. Do be careful with the length of the microphone. It can intrude into the camera's field of view. Especially with wide angle adapters. __________________ Mike Rehmus Hey, I can see the carrot at the end of the tunnel!

November 4th, 2003, 05:31 PM	#2
Rob Wilson Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Flagstaff, AZ Posts: 473	Robert, The 66/K6 combo doens't usually come with any mount at all. As a minimum, you an use a beyerdynamic EA 86 shock mount but you'll also need to budget for a windscreen if you're even thinking about using it outside. Rycote seems to have the best reputation (and of course, highest cost) but others are out there.

November 4th, 2003, 06:04 PM	#3
Bryan Beasleigh Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,922	I use an AT8415 shock mount ($50) http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=68143&is=REG The 8515 is versatile in that it will hold mics of .5" diameter to 2.13". the 8415 is ideal on a boom pole or a camera hot shoe. You will need a shoe adapter to screw onto the bottom of the 8415( $10 ) http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=68160&is=REG

December 8th, 2003, 06:01 PM	#4
Matthew de Jongh Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: sounthern maine Posts: 344	ok i've been looking at the me-66 with the k6 combo pistol grip etc. so the at8415 would work along with the above mentioned shoe adaptor so i could put it on top of a pd-170 or dvx-100? it says that the k6 pistol grippy thing is adaptable to a boom-pole, is there a specific mount/model that is needed? i know squat about boom poles. matthew

December 8th, 2003, 06:19 PM	#5
Marty Wein Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 229	Yes the AT8415 will work on any shoe mount when used with the Audio Technica shoe adapter. Remote Audio makes a very nice grip that will attach to the shock mount (or any other mount with a 3/8 thread) and also has a thread on the bottom that will allow you to use it on a boom pole without having to remove the grip first. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...*&shs=auat8415 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...u=68160&is=REG http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=283348&is=REG

December 8th, 2003, 06:23 PM	#6
Marty Wein Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 229	<<<-- Originally posted by Matthew de Jongh : it says that the k6 pistol grippy thing is adaptable to a boom-pole, is there a specific mount/model that is needed? -->>> I believe you reffer to the Rycote pistol grip. If so, the grip has a 3/8 thread and will mount to all popular boom poles on the market (K-Tek, VDB, Gitzo, Beyerdynamics)

December 8th, 2003, 06:34 PM	#7
Matthew de Jongh Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: sounthern maine Posts: 344	yeah, the rycote/me-66/k6 bundle thanks for the links, that helps a lot. you have stuff i couldn't find on bh's site i called on the phone to ask a few questions but they seem as though they either want you to just have the part # and be ready to order or just come down to the showroom. i'm trying to do as much research as i can before i show up down there, because i just KNOW it will be overwelming with all the toys and gadgets there! now i just need to find a decent bracket to hold the sennheiser wireless system on the camera. the bracket1 looks decent but kind of a clunky design. may just have to make my own. matthew

December 8th, 2003, 06:59 PM	#8
Marty Wein Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 229	The Bracket 1 is not as clunky as it looks on the picture. It actually looks very good on the DVX-100 and PD-150 (I believe the PD-170 has the same footprint as the PD-150) and is only 8.2 oz.

December 8th, 2003, 11:04 PM	#11
Marty Wein Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 229	The bracket 1 can also accommodate the BEC wireless receiver mounting boxes which protects the receiver and also looks more professional. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...x+for+Mounting

December 9th, 2003, 12:13 AM	#12
Bryan Beasleigh Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,922	The Mini Rover will give you a very balanced grip as well a means to carry a shotgun mic and a radio receiver. See the example at the bottom of this page(link). http://www.dvshop.ca/camera/videosmith.html Don't let the pricing give you heart failure, it's in Canadian $. This is for illustration only. It's $50 from B&H and the adapter plate for the receiver is around $15. I can mount my AT 8415 shock mount and Velcro my Sennheiser receiver to the mini mate . http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=194070&is=REG I use this grip on a VX2000 and it allows me to get a solid grip on the camera, with my elbows tight against my upper body. The camera moves with your upper torso. No shake at all. The Bracket 1 is nice but you still have nothing to hang onto. Try it , you'll like it. Do a search in Support your cam.

December 25th, 2003, 09:00 PM	#13
Matthew de Jongh Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: sounthern maine Posts: 344	well the rover confuses me, the grip is above the horizontal bar that connects to the tripod screw hole... so you have your right hand on the camera in the normal position, and then you have your left hand up high to hold the handle? this seems awkward to me. i could see it a bit more if the handle went down from the cross bar, it bugs me that the pictures of it are never showing it in real use. matthew

December 25th, 2003, 10:31 PM	#14
Bryan Beasleigh Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,922	Holding a camera attached to the mighty wondercam mini rover, you will have both arms and elbows tucked into your body very tightly, forming an extremely rigid , yet flexible support. If you search this fully I don't really know if i get any more in depth but it works. Others have verified it. Order one and take a chance. email me at bbeasleigh at rogers dot com and we can talk. No sense in dragging the online experience on. Those that have tried it have always agreed.

December 26th, 2003, 11:03 AM	#15
Jay Massengill Trustee Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Burlington Posts: 1,976	I agree that most users of the Mini Rover like it. However, the grip that I built out of parts works like Matthew suggests, with the vertical grip directly below the center of gravity of the whole rig. Advantage of Mini Rover: It looks professionally made and comes ready to use and you can sit the camera directly down on a flat surface. Advantage of my rig: It cost about $18 and is better balanced. It also takes up very little space once you unscrew the handle, which you have to do to sit the rig on a flat surface. You can also substitute longer handles for raising the camera above your head or a medium handle for use while sitting in a chair. People have also mentioned that they use a monopod to accomplish something similar but that's limited on where your center of gravity is. I have a lot of audio gear attached, so I needed to be able to shift the mounting point. So if you like to tinker, go to a pro still-camera shop and look at all their flash brackets. I used a simple flat one and added a table-leg-bracket-plate and a rigged BMX bike grip handle so I can adapt to the center of gravity by shifting the mounting point. If you don't like to build things yourself, buy the Mini Rover or one of the right-angle flash brackets that are similar in shape.