Tinny Sound from Rode NTG-1 at DVinfo.net
DV Info Net

Go Back   DV Info Net > The Tools of DV and HD Production > All Things Audio
Register FAQ Today's Posts Buyer's Guides

All Things Audio
Everything Audio, from acquisition to postproduction.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old February 16th, 2009, 01:57 AM   #1
Major Player
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Sydney
Posts: 552
Tinny Sound from Rode NTG-1

Apologies if this has come up before, I have had a search but haven't found anything...

I have recently recorded a voice over using a Rode NTG-1 mic, the sound is crystal clear however it sounds 'tinny'...

I would say that my audio knowledge is pretty limited so maybe I am not doing something very obvious, does anyone have any ideas to solve this prob??

I have FCS as my NLE
Jonathan Shaw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 16th, 2009, 03:56 AM   #2
Major Player
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Bonaire, Ga.
Posts: 356
Without knowing more information, be hard to determine what may possibly be wrong in the recording. The only know variable is the microphone.

- How far away was the mic from the VO subject?
- Where was it recorded? (what environment)
- What recorder (or camera) was used and the recording settings?
Mark A. Foley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 16th, 2009, 02:31 PM   #3
Major Player
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Sydney
Posts: 552
Apologies; the subject was around 1.5m away, and the setting was a lounge room. It was being recorded into a Canon A1.
Jonathan Shaw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 16th, 2009, 03:26 PM   #4
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Camas, WA, USA
Posts: 5,513
You might need to EQ the voice. Boosting the frequencies around 200-300 Hz will give your voice more bottom end. As always with equalization, you can make sharp cuts, but make sure your boosts and smooth and gentle.

If your diction is clear, that means the frequencies around 1.2 kHz are coming through well. If the consonants are unclear, boost this range.

If your voice sounds nasally, reduce the frequencies around 2.4 kHz. If your voice sounds dull boost this range.

If you want more "air", boost the frequencies from 5-15 kHz. If your "Ss" start to hiss, reduce this range.

The next tip is to try some compression. Personally I like to copy the track, compress the heck out of the copy, and mix in the original. High compression might have a ratio of 20:1 and a threshold of -25dB. The compressed track will have body, but no definition. The original track will have definition, but no body. Mix to taste.

In the future, put the mic closer to the subject, if possible.

Best of luck...
__________________
Jon Fairhurst
Jon Fairhurst is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 16th, 2009, 03:26 PM   #5
Trustee
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Antrim, Northern Ireland
Posts: 1,569
Someone will be along soon to use proper science words to explain this, but I went through this pain with my first UWOL film, having never recorded voiceover before.

Ther's a whole lot of reflected sound in a big room, it can sound very echo-ey and unnatural. That's why the voiceover pros use little acoustic sound booths with lots of insulation (think of egg-boxes on the walls).

A technique you can use at home is a closet/wardrobe with clothes in it, this absorbs most of the unwanted echoes. Hopefully your location will be a bit more comfy than my wardrobe, but I was able to get pretty decent sound out of my Rode NTG-2 that way: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/863565-post101.html

I got the closet idea from a post I found elsewhere on DVinfo - a true mine of info.
__________________
Irish Railway Videos on Youtube
Mike Beckett is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 16th, 2009, 03:35 PM   #6
Trustee
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Miami, FL USA
Posts: 1,505
That's a pretty fair distance from the subject in what must be an acoustically-live space, with background rumble. The NTG-1 has a surprisingly broad pickup at the 500 hz range, and also somewhat sensitive at 500 hz 180 degrees from the front.

I'm just guessing, here, but maybe you have a lot of low amplitude, low frequency noise competing with the low-range part of the voice, so that what you hear clearly is the higher --"tinny" freqs ----a lot of voice character is found in the 300-500 hz range....close miking in such a venue ---a lav, preferably---might improve things. The NTG-1 is a pretty good mike but I think you have it too far away....///Battle Vaughan/miamiherald.com video team
Battle Vaughan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 16th, 2009, 07:25 PM   #7
Major Player
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Sydney
Posts: 552
Thanks guys... I will have a mess around and see what it comes out like.

Jon: That info is really useful

Mike: I have actually tried the wardrobe trick before but I wanted to shoot it as an interview so I thought the back drop of my clothing may look a little funny ;)

What do most people do if shooting an interview with only one operator (no boom guy). I am looking at getting a set of Sennheiser wireless mics, is this a solution?

Thanks again
Jonathan Shaw is offline   Reply
Reply

DV Info Net refers all where-to-buy and where-to-rent questions exclusively to these trusted full line dealers and rental houses...

B&H Photo Video
(866) 521-7381
New York, NY USA

Scan Computers Int. Ltd.
+44 0871-472-4747
Bolton, Lancashire UK


DV Info Net also encourages you to support local businesses and buy from an authorized dealer in your neighborhood.
  You are here: DV Info Net > The Tools of DV and HD Production > All Things Audio


 



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:38 PM.


DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2024 The Digital Video Information Network