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Bryan Mitchell · August 31st, 2003, 08:25 PM

I was talking to a friend of my dad's about my start in film, and I had some sound questions for him, since I knew thats what he did. (or did some years ago) I as asking him about recording sound out on the shoot, and all that stuff, and this led to him telling me that all dialogue in movies now a days are looped. (The dialogue is recorded in a studio later, and added back to the video. And the sound that was recorded during the shoot isn't used except for reference.) I had never herd this before, and wanted to know if it was true. I'm thinking about movies like Reservoir dogs, and stuff like that, and I have a hard time believing it is looped.

Peter Jefferson · September 1st, 2003, 08:19 AM

basically the actors go into a sound booth and watch the footage and re-enact the script.. this is rare from what i have seen thou...
with the quality of mics these days its not a common occurance, and is usually unnessary... and the difficulty in gettin the pitch, tone and sync correct is a bit much to ask form an actor.
I might be wrong, but most movies (from what ive seen) are recorded using timecode synced audio recorders using 4 channels as environment and a single channel for dialogue, then mixed in post to creat a 5.1 stream.

Obviously what ur referring to depends on the movie, the scene and the relevance to the big picture...

i honestly dont see a fight scene from Blade2 be re-enacted in a soundbooth...

Rob Belics · September 1st, 2003, 10:19 AM

Looping is only used when the on set sound was not adequate for the take. It has a disadvantage of being recorded, sometimes, much later after being filmed. The actor then has to reacquire the character and feeling of that scene and it sometimes doesn't have the same emotion or effect.

Sound effects, such as fight scenes, are always recorded later. This is what the foley editor and his people do. Everything from buttoning a shirt to slaps in the face to walking across the room. At least if there is a budget for it and all Hollywood movies have one.

Mike Rehmus · September 3rd, 2003, 10:50 PM

Typically it's now called ADR (Automatic Dialog Replacement) which it is not.

Mike Rehmus · September 3rd, 2003, 10:57 PM

double posted.

August 31st, 2003, 08:25 PM	#1
Bryan Mitchell Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 316	Looping I was talking to a friend of my dad's about my start in film, and I had some sound questions for him, since I knew thats what he did. (or did some years ago) I as asking him about recording sound out on the shoot, and all that stuff, and this led to him telling me that all dialogue in movies now a days are looped. (The dialogue is recorded in a studio later, and added back to the video. And the sound that was recorded during the shoot isn't used except for reference.) I had never herd this before, and wanted to know if it was true. I'm thinking about movies like Reservoir dogs, and stuff like that, and I have a hard time believing it is looped.

September 3rd, 2003, 10:50 PM	#4
Mike Rehmus Wrangler Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vallejo, California Posts: 4,049	Typically it's now called ADR (Automatic Dialog Replacement) which it is not. __________________ Mike Rehmus Hey, I can see the carrot at the end of the tunnel!

September 3rd, 2003, 10:57 PM	#5
Mike Rehmus Wrangler Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vallejo, California Posts: 4,049	double posted. __________________ Mike Rehmus Hey, I can see the carrot at the end of the tunnel!

September 1st, 2003, 08:19 AM	#2
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	basically the actors go into a sound booth and watch the footage and re-enact the script.. this is rare from what i have seen thou... with the quality of mics these days its not a common occurance, and is usually unnessary... and the difficulty in gettin the pitch, tone and sync correct is a bit much to ask form an actor. I might be wrong, but most movies (from what ive seen) are recorded using timecode synced audio recorders using 4 channels as environment and a single channel for dialogue, then mixed in post to creat a 5.1 stream. Obviously what ur referring to depends on the movie, the scene and the relevance to the big picture... i honestly dont see a fight scene from Blade2 be re-enacted in a soundbooth...

September 1st, 2003, 10:19 AM	#3
Rob Belics Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 581	Looping is only used when the on set sound was not adequate for the take. It has a disadvantage of being recorded, sometimes, much later after being filmed. The actor then has to reacquire the character and feeling of that scene and it sometimes doesn't have the same emotion or effect. Sound effects, such as fight scenes, are always recorded later. This is what the foley editor and his people do. Everything from buttoning a shirt to slaps in the face to walking across the room. At least if there is a budget for it and all Hollywood movies have one.