New Sennheiser Wireless Generation coming out?

Bill Ravens · April 2nd, 2009, 11:40 AM

Thanx for the suggestions, guys.
As for antenna orientation, I've tried them all, however, I should note that when the xmitter is belt mounted on the talent's backside, and the receiver is mounted on the cam, it's very difficult to control antenna orientation. There are specific orientations that work, however, they are extremely sensitive and the slightest variation will cause a loss of RF signal. As you must know, dropouts are definitely unacceptable.
FWIW, my freq block is 626-662

John Willett · April 3rd, 2009, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Marco Leavitt

I've also never heard of fake G2s. This is pretty sophisticated gear. Are you sure fakes exist?

Yes - they *do* exist.

John Willett · April 3rd, 2009, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Ravens

Thanx for the suggestions, guys.
As for antenna orientation, I've tried them all, however, I should note that when the xmitter is belt mounted on the talent's backside, and the receiver is mounted on the cam, it's very difficult to control antenna orientation. There are specific orientations that work, however, they are extremely sensitive and the slightest variation will cause a loss of RF signal. As you must know, dropouts are definitely unacceptable.
FWIW, my freq block is 626-662

Try changing the clip over so the antenna points down - this often helps.

Antenna up and the talent sweating will reduce the transmission amazingly.

Your frequencies are block B.

From what you said, you could have a faulty unit - I would get it checked to be sure.

Bill Ravens · April 3rd, 2009, 06:54 AM

Thanx John...
I also have a SKP100 G2 microphone xmitter that behaves exactly the same as the ex100 xmitter. That would imply, if there is a problem, it's with my receiver. I'd be interested to try the xmitters with the new diversity receiver, but, I won't buy one until I have more confidence with this system.

Rick Reineke · April 3rd, 2009, 11:19 AM

These are probably a faulty units or user error. I use my G2s in (RF hell) midtown Manhattan all the time without issue, however due diligence must be used in selecting frequencies, gain staging, ect., But even my Lectros require proper set-up... but are more forgiving.

Marco Leavitt · April 3rd, 2009, 03:48 PM

Hey John,
I'm very curious about the faux G2 issue. Can you point us to any further details about that on the net?

Bob Grant · April 4th, 2009, 06:14 AM

I'm not John but I do know something about G2 knock offs as I work for a Senny reseller and have heard this from the importer's (Syntec) rep.

I believe you can identify fake units by the country of manufacture. If it's not USA then it's a fake. Only the first prototype batch was made in Germany and that's what got cloned, right down to the label. Aside from that they are very convincing knock offs, you'd need to do an A/B comparison on the PCBs to really spot the differences. Performance is not as good as the genuine article so anyone having issues like Bill's should have their units checked out.

John Willett · April 4th, 2009, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco Leavitt

Hey John,
I'm very curious about the faux G2 issue. Can you point us to any further details about that on the net?

There are loads of fakes being sold on the internet - same thing happens with Shure.

The biggest clue is the price, normally.

The early Sennheiser fakes put fake Shure pocket transmitters in the kit with "Shure" changed to "Sennheiser".

They are getting better, though - as soon as someone points out how to spot a fake, they "correct" it.

The fakes tend to be low quality and unreliable, as all the money has gone into making them "look" like the real thinf and nothing on the quality.

In fact it's illegal to use a fake as they do not comply with the telecommunications regulations.

Shaun Conner · April 14th, 2009, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by John Willett

Try changing the clip over so the antenna points down - this often helps.

Antenna up and the talent sweating will reduce the transmission amazingly.

Your frequencies are block B.

From what you said, you could have a faulty unit - I would get it checked to be sure.

So what if you're using a block C device? What happens then?

Shaun Conner · April 15th, 2009, 04:29 PM

Bump?????????

Omar Torresola · April 16th, 2009, 05:53 PM

I wonder if the G2 receiver will work with a G3 transmitter in the same band..

John Willett · April 17th, 2009, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Omar Torresola

I wonder if the G2 receiver will work with a G3 transmitter in the same band..

Yes - and vice versa (though please bare in mind that G3 has a 42MHz window and G2 has 32MHz).

Craig Seeman · April 19th, 2009, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun Conner

So what if you're using a block C device? What happens then?

Sennheiser has a "discount" program based on how long you've owned your block C kit. It's not very good though IMHO but some feel anything is better than nothing. I'm in this situation too.

Although my problems don't sound as bad as Bill's I've also had issues and, like Bill, bought at B&H so it's reputable.

Occasionally I get either a building wall of hiss or some low level (but not low enough) constant noise. I can't find a cause or patterns. It happened before the 700MHz law changes. The issue is only periodic but when it happens it can really drag a shoot down. Yes I check for all the usual suspects including cell phones, electronic devices, bad cables and connections, body placement. There's no obvious rhyme or reason and it's intermittent (infrequent) enough that it would drive a maintenance person nuts trying to track down.

Craig Seeman · April 19th, 2009, 12:45 PM

BTW Sennheiser info on counterfeiting is on their own site.

Sennheiser Worldwide: Microphones, Headphones and Wireless Systems

Sennheiser USA - Counterfit

Craig Seeman · April 19th, 2009, 12:50 PM

Sennheiser 700MHz rebate news

Sennheiser USA - Headphones, Wireless, Microphones, Noise Cancelling, Reduction, Aviation, ANC, ANR, Audiology Systems, Headphone Listening and Microphone Usage

http://www.sennheiserusa.com/media/p...nge_Rebate.pdf

example

Evolution Series
Rebate Value
 EW 100 series G2 $420 - ($10 x month of ownership)
 EW 300 series G2 $800 - ($20 x month of ownership)
 EW 500 series G2 $1000 - ($25 x month of ownership)
 EM 550 w/two transmitters $2000 - ($50 x month of ownership)

Sennheiser Evolution Wireless G2 systems, C Range - Purchased between January 1, 2006 and January 1, 2008
The rebate value is calculated considering the product series and month of ownership. The new system purchased must be at the same level or higher than the traded in system, otherwise rebate values will be calculated based on the lower system that is purchased new.

Examples:
100 series C range system bought in August 2007, new system purchased in February 2009: Rebate = $420 – ($10 x 18) = $240
EM 550 with two transmitters bought in December 2007, new system purchased in December 2008: Rebate = $2000 – ($50 x 12) = $1,400

April 2nd, 2009, 11:40 AM	#16
Bill Ravens Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: santa fe, nm Posts: 3,264 Images: 10	Thanx for the suggestions, guys. As for antenna orientation, I've tried them all, however, I should note that when the xmitter is belt mounted on the talent's backside, and the receiver is mounted on the cam, it's very difficult to control antenna orientation. There are specific orientations that work, however, they are extremely sensitive and the slightest variation will cause a loss of RF signal. As you must know, dropouts are definitely unacceptable. FWIW, my freq block is 626-662

April 3rd, 2009, 06:54 AM	#19
Bill Ravens Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: santa fe, nm Posts: 3,264 Images: 10	Thanx John... I also have a SKP100 G2 microphone xmitter that behaves exactly the same as the ex100 xmitter. That would imply, if there is a problem, it's with my receiver. I'd be interested to try the xmitters with the new diversity receiver, but, I won't buy one until I have more confidence with this system.

April 3rd, 2009, 11:19 AM	#20
Rick Reineke Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: New York Posts: 2,039	These are probably a faulty units or user error. I use my G2s in (RF hell) midtown Manhattan all the time without issue, however due diligence must be used in selecting frequencies, gain staging, ect., But even my Lectros require proper set-up... but are more forgiving.

April 3rd, 2009, 03:48 PM	#21
Marco Leavitt Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Albany, NY 12210 Posts: 2,652	Hey John, I'm very curious about the faux G2 issue. Can you point us to any further details about that on the net?

April 4th, 2009, 06:14 AM	#22
Bob Grant Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 1,570	I'm not John but I do know something about G2 knock offs as I work for a Senny reseller and have heard this from the importer's (Syntec) rep. I believe you can identify fake units by the country of manufacture. If it's not USA then it's a fake. Only the first prototype batch was made in Germany and that's what got cloned, right down to the label. Aside from that they are very convincing knock offs, you'd need to do an A/B comparison on the PCBs to really spot the differences. Performance is not as good as the genuine article so anyone having issues like Bill's should have their units checked out.

April 15th, 2009, 04:29 PM	#25
Shaun Conner Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 196	Bump?????????

April 16th, 2009, 05:53 PM	#26
Omar Torresola New Boot Join Date: May 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 18	I wonder if the G2 receiver will work with a G3 transmitter in the same band..

April 19th, 2009, 12:45 PM	#29
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	BTW Sennheiser info on counterfeiting is on their own site. Sennheiser Worldwide: Microphones, Headphones and Wireless Systems Sennheiser USA - Counterfit

April 19th, 2009, 12:50 PM	#30
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	Sennheiser 700MHz rebate news Sennheiser USA - Headphones, Wireless, Microphones, Noise Cancelling, Reduction, Aviation, ANC, ANR, Audiology Systems, Headphone Listening and Microphone Usage http://www.sennheiserusa.com/media/p...nge_Rebate.pdf example Evolution Series Rebate Value  EW 100 series G2 $420 - ($10 x month of ownership)  EW 300 series G2 $800 - ($20 x month of ownership)  EW 500 series G2 $1000 - ($25 x month of ownership)  EM 550 w/two transmitters $2000 - ($50 x month of ownership) Sennheiser Evolution Wireless G2 systems, C Range - Purchased between January 1, 2006 and January 1, 2008 The rebate value is calculated considering the product series and month of ownership. The new system purchased must be at the same level or higher than the traded in system, otherwise rebate values will be calculated based on the lower system that is purchased new. Examples: 100 series C range system bought in August 2007, new system purchased in February 2009: Rebate = $420 – ($10 x 18) = $240 EM 550 with two transmitters bought in December 2007, new system purchased in December 2008: Rebate = $2000 – ($50 x 12) = $1,400