Need Lavalier with standard XL3 connector

Petri Kaipiainen · October 30th, 2008, 12:47 AM

True, I was thinking the other way around, 48v mics can operate with lower voltage, 5V mics not with 48V.

Jack Walker · October 30th, 2008, 10:06 AM

Just a note,

Some lavaliers are hard wired to a power adapter and can then only be used hard wired.

Other lavaliers are wired so they can either plug into a little power adapter or plug into a wireless transmitter.

It there is a chance of using a wireless setup sometimes and hard wired sometimes, it is worth getting a mic with a removable power adapter and appropriate plug for the wireless transmitter.

Phil Hoppes · October 30th, 2008, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Brockett

Good luck and let us know which one you order.

Dan

Hi Dan,

Read your article and the others that you wrote and linked to. I'm not an expert but better off than where I started. I opted for the AT899. I don't have a large budget and found these on the web for $199 each which I think is a pretty good deal. Listening to your example audio tracks (very nice touch!) at least to my tinny ears they sounded fine. I appreciate your help and advice.

Phil

Ty Ford · October 30th, 2008, 08:08 PM

[QUOTE=Phil Hoppes;956907]Let me preface with I just purchased and returned some Audio Technica AT829cw Lav mic's. Noob issue, I did not realize that the XLR connectors are a proprietary 4 pin for use with their wireless transmitters and basically I bought the wrong thing. ...... I've been looking at the Audio Technica in particular and they have various models that ship with or without the power adapter. Since I have a mixer that can supply phantom power, I don't believe I need to buy a mike with the power adapter (correct?) but I'm not sure that the mic I want to get has the correct end.

>>No. You are about to make the same mistake. A powering module has circuitry that allows you to use an XLR with a phantom power supply.

Regards,

Ty Ford

Kevin Walsh · October 30th, 2008, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil Hoppes

Hi Dan,

Read your article and the others that you wrote and linked to. I'm not an expert but better off than where I started. I opted for the AT899. I don't have a large budget and found these on the web for $199 each which I think is a pretty good deal. Listening to your example audio tracks (very nice touch!) at least to my tinny ears they sounded fine. I appreciate your help and advice.

Phil

Hi Phil,
I just want to add my to cents and recommend that you buy the cheapest mic that will do the job. You don't need broadcast quality for legal depositions. And you wont be too upset and when the mic is broken inadvertantly by a subject who does not take it off before going on a bathroom break.

Phil Hoppes · October 31st, 2008, 06:10 AM

[QUOTE=Ty Ford;957901]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil Hoppes

Let me preface with I just purchased and returned some Audio Technica AT829cw Lav mic's. Noob issue, I did not realize that the XLR connectors are a proprietary 4 pin for use with their wireless transmitters and basically I bought the wrong thing. ...... I've been looking at the Audio Technica in particular and they have various models that ship with or without the power adapter. Since I have a mixer that can supply phantom power, I don't believe I need to buy a mike with the power adapter (correct?) but I'm not sure that the mic I want to get has the correct end.

>>No. You are about to make the same mistake. A powering module has circuitry that allows you to use an XLR with a phantom power supply.

Regards,

Ty Ford

Thanks but no, what I did not realize the first time was that the 829cw's were replacement mic's for people that have the specific Audio Technica wireless mic transmitters. The 899's I purchased come with the power adapters which have the standard large 3 pin xlr inputs so this will work with my system.

And to Kevin's point, yes, that is what I figured. Audio Technica makes an 803 model that is about $40 cheaper so the 899's are the cheapest, but compared to everything else I found they seemed to fit. I'm sure like when I buy anything else....I'll find something cheaper the day after I get what I picked up but these arn't the $600 and up broadcast Lav's that are out there. Funny how the cost on these things seems to be inverse to their size also.

October 30th, 2008, 08:08 PM	#19
Ty Ford Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Posts: 2,337	[QUOTE=Phil Hoppes;956907]Let me preface with I just purchased and returned some Audio Technica AT829cw Lav mic's. Noob issue, I did not realize that the XLR connectors are a proprietary 4 pin for use with their wireless transmitters and basically I bought the wrong thing. ...... I've been looking at the Audio Technica in particular and they have various models that ship with or without the power adapter. Since I have a mixer that can supply phantom power, I don't believe I need to buy a mike with the power adapter (correct?) but I'm not sure that the mic I want to get has the correct end. >>No. You are about to make the same mistake. A powering module has circuitry that allows you to use an XLR with a phantom power supply. Regards, Ty Ford __________________ Ty Ford's Audio Bootcamp Field Guide Ty Ford's Audio Video Blog

October 30th, 2008, 12:47 AM	#16
Petri Kaipiainen Major Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Espoo Finland Posts: 380	True, I was thinking the other way around, 48v mics can operate with lower voltage, 5V mics not with 48V.

October 30th, 2008, 10:06 AM	#17
Jack Walker Trustee Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Burbank Posts: 1,811	Just a note, Some lavaliers are hard wired to a power adapter and can then only be used hard wired. Other lavaliers are wired so they can either plug into a little power adapter or plug into a wireless transmitter. It there is a chance of using a wireless setup sometimes and hard wired sometimes, it is worth getting a mic with a removable power adapter and appropriate plug for the wireless transmitter.