Short shotgun on Sony HDR-SR12? at DVinfo.net

Michael Kraus · September 27th, 2008, 08:50 PM

Does anyone know of a method to mount a short shotgun (such as the ECM-673) onto a small camcorder such as the hdr-sr12?

Maybe this is a crazy question.....

....but any feedback would be absolutely GREAT.

-Mikes

Jeffery Magat · September 27th, 2008, 08:58 PM

Use a flash/light bracket perhaps?

Michael Kraus · September 27th, 2008, 09:18 PM

ha, seems pretty simple. I'm assuming that a shockmount would fit on just fine on to a light bracket....any brand recomendations?

Guy Cochran · September 29th, 2008, 05:12 PM

On some of the Sony-HDR series, I seem to recall a non-standard accessory shoe.
If it is a standard size, there is the RODE SM3 shockmount. It's about halfway down on this page RODE SM3 shockmount

Or you might want to consider a Bracket1 Mini with an over camera cold shoe. Bracket 1 at DVcreators.net

Guy Cochran · September 30th, 2008, 03:19 PM

So I went out and bought a Sony HDR series camcorder today to test out. Just for you :)

The accessory shoe is smaller than standard and made for Sony's proprietary gear.

Here is a few photos of the Bracket1 Mini with the over the camera cold shoe mount and RODE SM3 suspension shockmount.

Michael Kraus · September 30th, 2008, 03:53 PM

haha! WOW JUST FOR ME??!?!

Thanks for the responses everyone.

Now, is the bracket-1 only for use on tripods? I would like to be able to use the camera handheld with a short shotgun as well...

Guy Cochran · September 30th, 2008, 03:59 PM

Actually, we're doing a little green screen test with it to. Seeing how the HDMI holds up with Reflecmedia.

The Bracket1 works well handheld with just the SM3 and a shotgun. It's still comfortable, not overwhelmingly side heavy as one would expect. I should have taken a pic with it fully loaded. One of our guys in the office put a Sennheiser wireless, a Litepanels micro and the shotgun on it.

Guy Cochran · September 30th, 2008, 06:29 PM

OK. Had to toss in the pics of the Sony HDR-SR all decked out and accessorized.
Ready for a night out on the town :)

- Litepanels LP Micro camera light
- RODE NTG-2 shotgun
- RODE SM3 shockmount
- RODE "Deadcat" windmuff
- BeachTek DXA-2S XLR adapter
- Sennheiser Evolution G2 wireless
- Bracket1 Mini with Over the camera shoe, cold shoe 1 and ew clip
- Matthews M25 tripod

Michael Kraus · September 30th, 2008, 10:36 PM

WOW! thanks! this helps a lot!

does the mic intrude on the picture at all?

Guy Cochran · October 1st, 2008, 07:29 PM

The mic does not intrude into the picture with the Bracket1 solution.

I wound up choosing the tiny Sennheiser MKE400 for runnin' and gunnin' with this camera.
The Sennheiser MKE400 Shotgun Mic at DVcreators.net
It's a little less obtrusive.

Also, B&H has a little AIS to standard size cold shoe adapter. I was stoked at first, however, the reviews of the $19 product don't seem to be too good. Worth checkin' out though Pearstone | Cold Shoe Adapter for Sony AIS | SSA | B&H Photo

Michael Kraus · October 1st, 2008, 09:03 PM

oh yeah i noticed that cold shoe adapter and i will definitely be reading up on it more. it may be a much more cost effect solution....even if i need to get a couple of them

Trey Vollmer · October 19th, 2008, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guy Cochran

OK. Had to toss in the pics of the Sony HDR-SR all decked out and accessorized.
Ready for a night out on the town :)

- Litepanels LP Micro camera light
- RODE NTG-2 shotgun
- RODE SM3 shockmount
- RODE "Deadcat" windmuff
- BeachTek DXA-2S XLR adapter
- Sennheiser Evolution G2 wireless
- Bracket1 Mini with Over the camera shoe, cold shoe 1 and ew clip
- Matthews M25 tripod

Guy,

Thanks for thread hopping with me.

I have a couple of questions for you.

I'm looking at your pictures here and I see some interesting stuff.

You have both the wireless receiver and a Rode shotgun mounted to your camera.

Do you know if I could use this same kind of set up on my HV30?

If so, where do you plug the receiver in? Hot shoe?

Two, where do you plug the Rode in? Mini plug?

Thanks,

Trey

Guy Cochran · October 20th, 2008, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trey Vollmer

Do you know if I could use this same kind of set up on my HV30?

If so, where do you plug the receiver in? Hot shoe?

Two, where do you plug the Rode in? Mini plug?

Thanks,

Trey

Sure, you can use this same set-up on the Canon HV30. The You would need a BeachTek, Sign Video or a Juiced Link XLR adapter to allow for the two mic inputs into the camera's 1/8" miniplug. Another option may be some crazy cable that would break out with two inputs with the channel 1 as the right and channel 2 as the left.

Guy Cochran · October 20th, 2008, 12:51 PM

Forgot to mention to the original poster that Adorama has two different style Sony AIS to cold shoe adapters.

AISCUBE Adorama Universal Cold Shoe Adapter for Sony Type AIS (Active Interface Shoe) Hot Shoe
AISFLAT Adorama Universal Cold Shoe Adapter for Sony Type AIS (Active Interface Shoe) Hot Shoe (FLAT TYPE)

The reviews on the B&H item said it was kind of loose, I'm hoping the Adorama adapter is better,but there are no reviews.

Michael Kraus · October 21st, 2008, 11:19 PM

thanks Guy i hadn't seen these yet :)

September 27th, 2008, 08:50 PM	#1
Michael Kraus Major Player Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Denton, TX Posts: 232	Short shotgun on Sony HDR-SR12? Does anyone know of a method to mount a short shotgun (such as the ECM-673) onto a small camcorder such as the hdr-sr12? Maybe this is a crazy question..... ....but any feedback would be absolutely GREAT. -Mikes

September 29th, 2008, 05:12 PM	#4
Guy Cochran DVCreators.Net Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 892	On some of the Sony-HDR series, I seem to recall a non-standard accessory shoe. If it is a standard size, there is the RODE SM3 shockmount. It's about halfway down on this page RODE SM3 shockmount Or you might want to consider a Bracket1 Mini with an over camera cold shoe. Bracket 1 at DVcreators.net __________________ Guy Cochran DVinfo Sponsor, Cool Gear - DVeStore! Last edited by Guy Cochran; September 30th, 2008 at 12:40 PM.

September 30th, 2008, 03:19 PM	#5
Guy Cochran DVCreators.Net Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 892	So I went out and bought a Sony HDR series camcorder today to test out. Just for you :) The accessory shoe is smaller than standard and made for Sony's proprietary gear. Here is a few photos of the Bracket1 Mini with the over the camera cold shoe mount and RODE SM3 suspension shockmount. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Guy Cochran DVinfo Sponsor, Cool Gear - DVeStore!

September 30th, 2008, 03:59 PM	#7
Guy Cochran DVCreators.Net Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 892	Actually, we're doing a little green screen test with it to. Seeing how the HDMI holds up with Reflecmedia. The Bracket1 works well handheld with just the SM3 and a shotgun. It's still comfortable, not overwhelmingly side heavy as one would expect. I should have taken a pic with it fully loaded. One of our guys in the office put a Sennheiser wireless, a Litepanels micro and the shotgun on it. __________________ Guy Cochran DVinfo Sponsor, Cool Gear - DVeStore!

September 30th, 2008, 06:29 PM	#8
Guy Cochran DVCreators.Net Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 892	OK. Had to toss in the pics of the Sony HDR-SR all decked out and accessorized. Ready for a night out on the town :) - Litepanels LP Micro camera light - RODE NTG-2 shotgun - RODE SM3 shockmount - RODE "Deadcat" windmuff - BeachTek DXA-2S XLR adapter - Sennheiser Evolution G2 wireless - Bracket1 Mini with Over the camera shoe, cold shoe 1 and ew clip - Matthews M25 tripod Attached Thumbnails __________________ Guy Cochran DVinfo Sponsor, Cool Gear - DVeStore!

September 27th, 2008, 08:58 PM	#2
Jeffery Magat Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 186	Use a flash/light bracket perhaps?

September 27th, 2008, 09:18 PM	#3
Michael Kraus Major Player Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Denton, TX Posts: 232	ha, seems pretty simple. I'm assuming that a shockmount would fit on just fine on to a light bracket....any brand recomendations?

September 30th, 2008, 03:53 PM	#6
Michael Kraus Major Player Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Denton, TX Posts: 232	haha! WOW JUST FOR ME??!?! Thanks for the responses everyone. Now, is the bracket-1 only for use on tripods? I would like to be able to use the camera handheld with a short shotgun as well...

September 30th, 2008, 10:36 PM	#9
Michael Kraus Major Player Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Denton, TX Posts: 232	WOW! thanks! this helps a lot! does the mic intrude on the picture at all?

October 1st, 2008, 07:29 PM	#10
Guy Cochran DVCreators.Net Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 892	The mic does not intrude into the picture with the Bracket1 solution. I wound up choosing the tiny Sennheiser MKE400 for runnin' and gunnin' with this camera. The Sennheiser MKE400 Shotgun Mic at DVcreators.net It's a little less obtrusive. Also, B&H has a little AIS to standard size cold shoe adapter. I was stoked at first, however, the reviews of the $19 product don't seem to be too good. Worth checkin' out though Pearstone \| Cold Shoe Adapter for Sony AIS \| SSA \| B&H Photo Attached Thumbnails __________________ Guy Cochran DVinfo Sponsor, Cool Gear - DVeStore!

October 1st, 2008, 09:03 PM	#11
Michael Kraus Major Player Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Denton, TX Posts: 232	oh yeah i noticed that cold shoe adapter and i will definitely be reading up on it more. it may be a much more cost effect solution....even if i need to get a couple of them

October 20th, 2008, 12:51 PM	#14
Guy Cochran DVCreators.Net Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 892	Forgot to mention to the original poster that Adorama has two different style Sony AIS to cold shoe adapters. AISCUBE Adorama Universal Cold Shoe Adapter for Sony Type AIS (Active Interface Shoe) Hot Shoe AISFLAT Adorama Universal Cold Shoe Adapter for Sony Type AIS (Active Interface Shoe) Hot Shoe (FLAT TYPE) The reviews on the B&H item said it was kind of loose, I'm hoping the Adorama adapter is better,but there are no reviews. Attached Images __________________ Guy Cochran DVinfo Sponsor, Cool Gear - DVeStore!

October 21st, 2008, 11:19 PM	#15
Michael Kraus Major Player Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Denton, TX Posts: 232	thanks Guy i hadn't seen these yet :)