Creating Bass,rumbling, etc.. Sounds for movie at DVinfo.net

Scott Delish · July 12th, 2008, 04:28 PM

How can I go about just creating bass in audition or fruity loops or any other app? I want it to be very specific not just random audio I've found online.

Giroud Francois · July 12th, 2008, 05:49 PM

if you need something specific, you have to be more.... specific.
bass sound can be easily created by slowing down regular sound (like slammed door, or engine start, or bird song).
if you need musical bass, any sound handling program will do the trick.

Cole McDonald · July 12th, 2008, 07:52 PM

Is it a mechanical rumble or an organic one you're looking for?

Scott Delish · July 12th, 2008, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cole McDonald

Is it a mechanical rumble or an organic one you're looking for?

Either/or... Also if any of you have seen the movie "Iron Man" then when he's coming out of the cave and you hear the bass as he is stepping in the darkness, it's very VERY low bass which I love.

Pietro Impagliazzo · July 12th, 2008, 11:09 PM

I'm interested in this as well.

"Environmental" effects that are not really musical.
That most of the times helps in creating the mood of a scene.

I guess the OP was referring to this, right?

Cole McDonald · July 13th, 2008, 12:28 AM

The way to do this is to capture some sort of sound (refrigerator running, ceiling fan pushing air, cat purring, fingernails on chalkboard, whatever...) and lower the pitch alot. To keep it from falling apart, you'll want to capture the sound as 24 or 32 bit (better) with a 96 Khz sample rate. then slow the sound down (like creating slowmo in an NLE) using soundtrack pro, audacity, whatever audio editor you have access to that will deal with that level of sound.

This will stretch out the oscillations (frequency) of the wave making it a lower sound. Human hearing starts around 40 hz, so about there to 100hz will get pretty cool results. You can look at a spectrum analyzer plugin (or a dancing lights EQ plugin) to see where it's settled when you slow it down.

Bill Davis · July 13th, 2008, 04:28 AM

Before you knock yourself out chasing that kind of movie theater quality EFX sound, you might want to start by setting aside some reasonably serious money for good monitoring in your editing suite, or don't expect to HEAR accurately what you're trying to mix.

Yeah, it starts with good sound design, but thats a guessing game unless you can EQ and mix your tracks with an ear for what an actual 5.1 theatre environment will do to your mix.

True story - I once helped a guy with his low budget digital film, and delivered him what I knew to be really good sounding dialog tracks. He took those and "mixed" them on his home editing system, but for the big premier, when his "sounds good on my home system" mix hit a larger college theater, we all painfully discovered that ALL the dialog in the movie was summed to mono OUT OF PHASE and was almost impossible to listen to.

A good example of mixing on one system, then moving those recordings to a whole different level of sound system. Sometimes you get some really nasty surprises.

For what it's worth.

Cole McDonald · July 13th, 2008, 08:45 AM

If you're looking for purchasing stuff, the "Hollywood Edge" series of sfx are really good.

David Beisner · July 14th, 2008, 06:17 AM

If you use Audacity, it's got a very nice tone generator that allows you to specify the exact frequency you want. You could generate a very low tone then run it through some reverb plugins or a phaser or something to get some different variations on it.

July 12th, 2008, 04:28 PM	#1
Scott Delish Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Trenton, NE Posts: 93	Creating Bass,rumbling, etc.. Sounds for movie How can I go about just creating bass in audition or fruity loops or any other app? I want it to be very specific not just random audio I've found online.

July 12th, 2008, 07:52 PM	#3
Cole McDonald Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sauk Rapids, MN, USA Posts: 1,675	Is it a mechanical rumble or an organic one you're looking for? __________________ Web Youtube Facebook

July 12th, 2008, 11:09 PM	#5
Pietro Impagliazzo Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rio de Janeiro, BR Posts: 170	I'm interested in this as well. "Environmental" effects that are not really musical. That most of the times helps in creating the mood of a scene. I guess the OP was referring to this, right? __________________ Pietro Impagliazzo flickr.com/photos/impagliazzo

July 13th, 2008, 12:28 AM	#6
Cole McDonald Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sauk Rapids, MN, USA Posts: 1,675	The way to do this is to capture some sort of sound (refrigerator running, ceiling fan pushing air, cat purring, fingernails on chalkboard, whatever...) and lower the pitch alot. To keep it from falling apart, you'll want to capture the sound as 24 or 32 bit (better) with a 96 Khz sample rate. then slow the sound down (like creating slowmo in an NLE) using soundtrack pro, audacity, whatever audio editor you have access to that will deal with that level of sound. This will stretch out the oscillations (frequency) of the wave making it a lower sound. Human hearing starts around 40 hz, so about there to 100hz will get pretty cool results. You can look at a spectrum analyzer plugin (or a dancing lights EQ plugin) to see where it's settled when you slow it down. __________________ Web Youtube Facebook

July 13th, 2008, 08:45 AM	#8
Cole McDonald Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sauk Rapids, MN, USA Posts: 1,675	If you're looking for purchasing stuff, the "Hollywood Edge" series of sfx are really good. __________________ Web Youtube Facebook

July 12th, 2008, 05:49 PM	#2
Giroud Francois Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: switzerland Posts: 2,133	if you need something specific, you have to be more.... specific. bass sound can be easily created by slowing down regular sound (like slammed door, or engine start, or bird song). if you need musical bass, any sound handling program will do the trick.

July 13th, 2008, 04:28 AM	#7
Bill Davis Trustee Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ 85260 Posts: 1,538	Before you knock yourself out chasing that kind of movie theater quality EFX sound, you might want to start by setting aside some reasonably serious money for good monitoring in your editing suite, or don't expect to HEAR accurately what you're trying to mix. Yeah, it starts with good sound design, but thats a guessing game unless you can EQ and mix your tracks with an ear for what an actual 5.1 theatre environment will do to your mix. True story - I once helped a guy with his low budget digital film, and delivered him what I knew to be really good sounding dialog tracks. He took those and "mixed" them on his home editing system, but for the big premier, when his "sounds good on my home system" mix hit a larger college theater, we all painfully discovered that ALL the dialog in the movie was summed to mono OUT OF PHASE and was almost impossible to listen to. A good example of mixing on one system, then moving those recordings to a whole different level of sound system. Sometimes you get some really nasty surprises. For what it's worth.

July 14th, 2008, 06:17 AM	#9
David Beisner Major Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Dayton, TN (USA) Posts: 219	If you use Audacity, it's got a very nice tone generator that allows you to specify the exact frequency you want. You could generate a very low tone then run it through some reverb plugins or a phaser or something to get some different variations on it. __________________ David Beisner Media Specialist, Bryan College, Dayton, TN -- www.bryan.edu