Azden SGM-2X not working on XL1s, need info. at DVinfo.net

J. Cody Lucido · July 15th, 2003, 02:29 PM

I was on a production last week and the director wanted to use his Azden SGM-2X with my Canon XL1s.

My Sennhieser ME66 worked fine, but I could not get a signal from the Azden SGM-2X. They had fresh batteries and worked on his VX200.

Anybody know why this is?

Upon reflection, I had the audio set to PCM 16bit, is this why it's not working? Are the Azden SGM-2X 12 bit?

Any info is appreciated.

Jeff Donald · July 15th, 2003, 08:03 PM

After the fact it is impossible to know for sure. How were you inputting the audio from the other system?

J. Cody Lucido · July 15th, 2003, 08:31 PM

Both used XLR connectors. My XL1s had the MA-100.

Jeff Donald · July 15th, 2003, 08:50 PM

You had the Azden's hooked up the same way as the ME-66? Did you change any of the menu settings (side of camera or internal menu accessed via the viewfinder)?

J. Cody Lucido · July 15th, 2003, 08:54 PM

They were hooked up the same. On set, I didn't think to change any of the settings for audio. It was set at PCM 16 bit.

Do you know if the Azden is 16 bit?

Jeff Donald · July 15th, 2003, 09:26 PM

Mics aren't rated or measured in bits. They are analog. The change from 12 bit to 16 bit only effects the method of recording the audio used by the camera.

Bud Kuenzli · July 16th, 2003, 08:44 AM

it works fine in a GL2 so it's very odd that it wouldn't work in an xl1s...and a search on the forum showed the following from Todd Mattson, April 8, 02:

I use and Azden SGM-1X ($150 from B&H), and am quite satisfied with it's supercardiod polar pattern and rejection at the rear and sides. It's about eleven inches long, has an XLR connector, and comes with it's own, albeit somewhat useless shockmount. I use mine mounted on my XL-1, with a MM-XL1 minimount from Lightwave Systems, and is great for the documentary and event shooting I do. Azden also makes another model, the SGM-2X, which has two polar patterns, omni and supercardiod for $250. Talk about bang for the buck. It's a little bit longer than the 1X, but does have even more rejection in it's supercariod pattern than the 1X as well. Good luck to you....

J. Cody Lucido · July 16th, 2003, 08:47 AM

We have another shoot this weekend, and I am going to investigate further.

For all I know it could have been a Ghost in the Machine.

Jay Massengill · July 16th, 2003, 09:20 AM

It is also possible for the battery-spring in the Azden mics to collapse side-ways if care isnt taken when intalling the battery or if the mic gets bumped significantly. This can create a loss of contact with the battery and no signal from the mic.

Imran Zaidi · July 16th, 2003, 04:11 PM

I use the SGM-2X with a GL-2 also, with great success.

July 15th, 2003, 02:29 PM	#1
J. Cody Lucido Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 58	Azden SGM-2X not working on XL1s, need info. I was on a production last week and the director wanted to use his Azden SGM-2X with my Canon XL1s. My Sennhieser ME66 worked fine, but I could not get a signal from the Azden SGM-2X. They had fresh batteries and worked on his VX200. Anybody know why this is? Upon reflection, I had the audio set to PCM 16bit, is this why it's not working? Are the Azden SGM-2X 12 bit? Any info is appreciated.

July 15th, 2003, 08:03 PM	#2
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	After the fact it is impossible to know for sure. How were you inputting the audio from the other system? __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

July 15th, 2003, 08:50 PM	#4
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	You had the Azden's hooked up the same way as the ME-66? Did you change any of the menu settings (side of camera or internal menu accessed via the viewfinder)? __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

July 15th, 2003, 09:26 PM	#6
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Mics aren't rated or measured in bits. They are analog. The change from 12 bit to 16 bit only effects the method of recording the audio used by the camera. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

July 16th, 2003, 08:44 AM	#7
Bud Kuenzli Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: North Pole, Alaska Posts: 197	dunno 'bout xl1s but... it works fine in a GL2 so it's very odd that it wouldn't work in an xl1s...and a search on the forum showed the following from Todd Mattson, April 8, 02: I use and Azden SGM-1X ($150 from B&H), and am quite satisfied with it's supercardiod polar pattern and rejection at the rear and sides. It's about eleven inches long, has an XLR connector, and comes with it's own, albeit somewhat useless shockmount. I use mine mounted on my XL-1, with a MM-XL1 minimount from Lightwave Systems, and is great for the documentary and event shooting I do. Azden also makes another model, the SGM-2X, which has two polar patterns, omni and supercardiod for $250. Talk about bang for the buck. It's a little bit longer than the 1X, but does have even more rejection in it's supercariod pattern than the 1X as well. Good luck to you.... __________________ on the Internet, when you get where you're going you still don't know where you are

July 15th, 2003, 08:31 PM	#3
J. Cody Lucido Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 58	Both used XLR connectors. My XL1s had the MA-100.

July 15th, 2003, 08:54 PM	#5
J. Cody Lucido Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 58	They were hooked up the same. On set, I didn't think to change any of the settings for audio. It was set at PCM 16 bit. Do you know if the Azden is 16 bit?

July 16th, 2003, 08:47 AM	#8
J. Cody Lucido Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 58	We have another shoot this weekend, and I am going to investigate further. For all I know it could have been a Ghost in the Machine.

July 16th, 2003, 09:20 AM	#9
Jay Massengill Trustee Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Burlington Posts: 1,976	It is also possible for the battery-spring in the Azden mics to collapse side-ways if care isnt taken when intalling the battery or if the mic gets bumped significantly. This can create a loss of contact with the battery and no signal from the mic.

July 16th, 2003, 04:11 PM	#10
Imran Zaidi Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,315	I use the SGM-2X with a GL-2 also, with great success.