How Are You Carrying Mixer + Recorder? at DVinfo.net

Peter Moretti · February 9th, 2008, 01:49 PM

I have an SD 302 mixer and a 744T recorder. I'm looking at different ways of carrying these during production.

Sound Devices makes the CS-3 which will carry a 302 or a 744. I could get two; which would be useful for when I want to use only the mixer or the recorder but not both.

Of course there are offerings by PortaBrace and Petrol.

How are you carrying your mixer and recorder? Thanks as always.

Steve House · February 9th, 2008, 02:19 PM

In the same process as you, Peter, deciding on a bag for my 442 (to which eventually a 702 or 744 will be added). Was looking the other day at a Kata Koala #3 which looks very good. Also considering the Petrol PEGZ-1 Small Eargonizer and the CS-4 from Sound Devices. Kind of leaning toward the Koala right now - going to be interesting to see what others are using.

Mike Peter Reed · February 9th, 2008, 02:24 PM

Petrol PEGZ-2. Lots of room. Possibly too much room. If I want just the mixer or recorder (302 and 702T is what I have plus HawksWood power) then I'll directly attach a strap and should-sling a single unit. When working from the bag I still shoulder sling it and it's still easier than the Nagra 4.2 days ....

Ross Jones · February 9th, 2008, 02:29 PM

Peter,
For my 302 & 702 I use this bag -> Petrol PSDMB-302 Audio Mixer Bag: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=340291&is=REG
The 302 & 702 have separate, adjustable compartments; additional holders for wireless receivers, and space for connectors, batteries, etc.
Rgds, Ross.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Peter Moretti · February 9th, 2008, 02:40 PM

Mike thanks for the feedback ;). I should have mentioned that will be shooting a documentary; so lots of going into people's homes and setting up in living rooms.

So small size is important to me. I can put the extra equipment in another bag. At a minimum I need carry just the 302. At the most (I believe) the 302, 744T and two G2 transmitters.

I think even the PEGZ-1 is more than I need.

Thanks all for the suggestions; I'm looking into them.

P.S. The Kata SUNDO bags look interesting. The interior panels can be cut to size and rubber feet keep the bottom off the ground.

http://www.kata-bags.com/category.as...d=1&ProdLine=1

Ivan Snoeckx · February 9th, 2008, 04:30 PM

Very interesting! I'm also looking for a new audio bag for a PSC DV Promix 3. My choice goes out to the KATA SUNDO-1. Is there anybody who uses this audio organizer, and have some pictures of it? The photos on their website are not detailed enough.

Joe Voorhees · February 9th, 2008, 09:25 PM

I have a PSC ProMix 3 that fits very nicely in a Portabrace SD 442 Bag. No recorder but I do have the wireless pouch hanging off the front - a perfect fit.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...dio_Mixer.html

Steve Oakley · February 9th, 2008, 10:43 PM

I've got a PEGZ-1 and its kind of small. You could fit a mixer in the front, record in the back but - the wireless receivers would have to go into the front pouch. Not that there isn't elastic in there to hold them, but it might get crowded as the front should hold you headphones. G2's would be ok, but lectros would be a tight fit.

I"ve got a FP33 in the front, 2 lectro's in the back with a bag light and a custom master power switch with LED battery level indicator. not much space left. I could get a 3rd reciever in there, thats it. for what you are thinking of, get the PEGZ-2. Oh, finding a spot for the transmitters has been tough as they just don't want to fit anywhere protected. You can put them in the transmitter pouches, but without a hardwire to them from the mixer ( as camera sends ) you run the risk of one of them popping off :( better to have a little bit bigger bag with some space - you'll use it, trust me - then a smaller one that just barely fits because as soon as you settle into it, you'll get another piece of gear to carry. I actually carry 2 lavs in cases as well in the bag so its always ready to go. don't forget break-away cable, some piggin straps.

Seth Bloombaum · February 10th, 2008, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter Moretti

...So small size is important to me. I can put the extra equipment in another bag. At a minimum I need carry just the 302. At the most (I believe) the 302, 744T and two G2 transmitters...

I'm not tracking with this. If small size is important... don't you want a bag big enough that you don't need to bring a second bag?

The point of the Petrol Eargonizers (which I like a lot) is that you buy them big enough to hold mixer, recorder, receivers, transmitters, cans, power and you don't carry anything else. You run it all out of one bag, which can hang in front for operation or go on a table, chair or floor if space is available. If you have additional equipment in another bag, you're not really set up to operate out of your bag and you'll always need space to set up. And, you don't have a hand for your boom.

With the one-bag approach - if you have room to stand you have room to work.

Peter Moretti · February 10th, 2008, 03:02 AM

Seth, my feeling--and it could change since I'm still very new to this--is I want my bag to carry what's needed while rolling. I can have another bag off to the side with all the other items I might need or will be changing out to. But I don't want to carry that auxiliary stuff around my waist or over my shoulder, or having it sitting on the floor next to the tripod.

Seth Bloombaum · February 10th, 2008, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Seth Bloombaum

...buy them big enough to hold mixer, recorder, receivers, transmitters, cans, power...

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Originally Posted by Peter Moretti

...I can have another bag off to the side with all the other items I might need or will be changing out to. But I don't want to carry that auxiliary stuff...

Ah, now I see - you're feeling that some of the equipment listed is auxiliary to your everyday needs. Whatever works for your style of shooting is great.

It's true that all that crap weighs too much and a big enough bag is bulky. I think it comes back to the style of production. I've certainly been on doc shoots where if the doohickey that was suddenly and unexpectedly needed wasn't physically on the sound op, it couldn't get used.

But if "just a sec, it's in my bag across the room... sh*#, it's in the car" works for the style of shooting, that's weight off the shoulders and I'm all for it.

Peter Moretti · February 12th, 2008, 10:13 PM

I've checked out the Petrol. Very nice, excellent protection but comparatively heavy. The Kata bags are much lighter, but don't seem to have the same level of protection.

Jim Boda · February 13th, 2008, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter Moretti

I've checked out the Petrol. Very nice, excellent protection but comparatively heavy. The Kata bags are much lighter, but don't seem to have the same level of protection.

I'd recommend using the Petrol harness w/ the bag. It distributes the weight where it needs to be...once you get it adjusted properly. The harness has additional clip on pouches for adding wireless or batteries.

Marco Leavitt · February 13th, 2008, 05:45 PM

What about attaching two bags together? There are hooks on the front of my SD302 bag (stock bag, sold by SD). Couldn't I use those to attach the stock bag for the SD722? What's the best way to do that?

Brooks Harrington · February 15th, 2008, 07:45 PM

Peter, Sundo-1 looks interesting. It looks like.... a bag. If you find somewhere around LA to look at it, let us know. LSC and Coffey usually don't carry KATA. Petrols are heavy. Porta well made, but just something... I don't know. I need to actually look at these things. And when I do... can't decide.....My problem is I like the recorder next to me and the mixer out in front, and everyone sets these bags up the other way.
Sundo could work. Looked at the Petrol PSDMB-302 that Ross mentioned and that looked like it would fit a recorder and 302.

February 9th, 2008, 01:49 PM	#1
Peter Moretti Trustee Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sherman Oaks, CA Posts: 1,259	How Are You Carrying Mixer + Recorder? I have an SD 302 mixer and a 744T recorder. I'm looking at different ways of carrying these during production. Sound Devices makes the CS-3 which will carry a 302 or a 744. I could get two; which would be useful for when I want to use only the mixer or the recorder but not both. Of course there are offerings by PortaBrace and Petrol. How are you carrying your mixer and recorder? Thanks as always.

February 9th, 2008, 02:19 PM	#2
Steve House Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,742	In the same process as you, Peter, deciding on a bag for my 442 (to which eventually a 702 or 744 will be added). Was looking the other day at a Kata Koala #3 which looks very good. Also considering the Petrol PEGZ-1 Small Eargonizer and the CS-4 from Sound Devices. Kind of leaning toward the Koala right now - going to be interesting to see what others are using. __________________ Good news, Cousins! This week's chocolate ration is 15 grams!

February 9th, 2008, 02:40 PM	#5
Peter Moretti Trustee Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sherman Oaks, CA Posts: 1,259	Mike thanks for the feedback ;). I should have mentioned that will be shooting a documentary; so lots of going into people's homes and setting up in living rooms. So small size is important to me. I can put the extra equipment in another bag. At a minimum I need carry just the 302. At the most (I believe) the 302, 744T and two G2 transmitters. I think even the PEGZ-1 is more than I need. Thanks all for the suggestions; I'm looking into them. P.S. The Kata SUNDO bags look interesting. The interior panels can be cut to size and rubber feet keep the bottom off the ground. http://www.kata-bags.com/category.as...d=1&ProdLine=1 Last edited by Peter Moretti; February 9th, 2008 at 03:14 PM.

February 9th, 2008, 02:24 PM	#3
Mike Peter Reed Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Hants, UK Posts: 185	Petrol PEGZ-2. Lots of room. Possibly too much room. If I want just the mixer or recorder (302 and 702T is what I have plus HawksWood power) then I'll directly attach a strap and should-sling a single unit. When working from the bag I still shoulder sling it and it's still easier than the Nagra 4.2 days .... __________________ ---8<---

February 9th, 2008, 02:29 PM	#4
Ross Jones Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Harvard, MA Posts: 155	Peter, For my 302 & 702 I use this bag -> Petrol PSDMB-302 Audio Mixer Bag: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=340291&is=REG The 302 & 702 have separate, adjustable compartments; additional holders for wireless receivers, and space for connectors, batteries, etc. Rgds, Ross. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

February 9th, 2008, 04:30 PM	#6
Ivan Snoeckx Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Belgium \| Europe Posts: 441	Very interesting! I'm also looking for a new audio bag for a PSC DV Promix 3. My choice goes out to the KATA SUNDO-1. Is there anybody who uses this audio organizer, and have some pictures of it? The photos on their website are not detailed enough.

February 9th, 2008, 09:25 PM	#7
Joe Voorhees New Boot Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Springfield, NJ Posts: 24	I have a PSC ProMix 3 that fits very nicely in a Portabrace SD 442 Bag. No recorder but I do have the wireless pouch hanging off the front - a perfect fit. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...dio_Mixer.html

February 9th, 2008, 10:43 PM	#8
Steve Oakley Trustee Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: United States Posts: 1,158	I've got a PEGZ-1 and its kind of small. You could fit a mixer in the front, record in the back but - the wireless receivers would have to go into the front pouch. Not that there isn't elastic in there to hold them, but it might get crowded as the front should hold you headphones. G2's would be ok, but lectros would be a tight fit. I"ve got a FP33 in the front, 2 lectro's in the back with a bag light and a custom master power switch with LED battery level indicator. not much space left. I could get a 3rd reciever in there, thats it. for what you are thinking of, get the PEGZ-2. Oh, finding a spot for the transmitters has been tough as they just don't want to fit anywhere protected. You can put them in the transmitter pouches, but without a hardwire to them from the mixer ( as camera sends ) you run the risk of one of them popping off :( better to have a little bit bigger bag with some space - you'll use it, trust me - then a smaller one that just barely fits because as soon as you settle into it, you'll get another piece of gear to carry. I actually carry 2 lavs in cases as well in the bag so its always ready to go. don't forget break-away cable, some piggin straps.

February 10th, 2008, 03:02 AM	#10
Peter Moretti Trustee Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sherman Oaks, CA Posts: 1,259	Seth, my feeling--and it could change since I'm still very new to this--is I want my bag to carry what's needed while rolling. I can have another bag off to the side with all the other items I might need or will be changing out to. But I don't want to carry that auxiliary stuff around my waist or over my shoulder, or having it sitting on the floor next to the tripod.

February 12th, 2008, 10:13 PM	#12
Peter Moretti Trustee Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sherman Oaks, CA Posts: 1,259	I've checked out the Petrol. Very nice, excellent protection but comparatively heavy. The Kata bags are much lighter, but don't seem to have the same level of protection.

February 13th, 2008, 05:45 PM	#14
Marco Leavitt Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Albany, NY 12210 Posts: 2,652	What about attaching two bags together? There are hooks on the front of my SD302 bag (stock bag, sold by SD). Couldn't I use those to attach the stock bag for the SD722? What's the best way to do that?

February 15th, 2008, 07:45 PM	#15
Brooks Harrington Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Pasadena, CA Posts: 152	Peter, Sundo-1 looks interesting. It looks like.... a bag. If you find somewhere around LA to look at it, let us know. LSC and Coffey usually don't carry KATA. Petrols are heavy. Porta well made, but just something... I don't know. I need to actually look at these things. And when I do... can't decide.....My problem is I like the recorder next to me and the mixer out in front, and everyone sets these bags up the other way. Sundo could work. Looked at the Petrol PSDMB-302 that Ross mentioned and that looked like it would fit a recorder and 302.