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Kyle Fasanella · January 29th, 2008, 02:13 PM

Hey guys,

I am looking for a wireless setup to replace an XLR cable that goes from my Sony Z1U to mic w/ boom pole. I am steadicam operator and cannot have wires attached at all. This transmitter needs phantom power. It be perfect if it had and have a headphone jack. The boom operator needs to be able to monitor the sound and transmit to the Z1U. I am looking to spend as little as possible without losing too much. What specific equipment should I be looking at? What else should I be looking for in a wireless setup? What’s a good place to buy this equipment? EBay?

Steve House · January 29th, 2008, 02:40 PM

Perhaps you might consider something like the Sound Devices MM-1 mic preamp and headphone amp on the boom operator's belt providing phantom for the mic and monitoring for the operator, feeding into a plugon wireless transmitter plugged into the output.

Greg Bellotte · January 29th, 2008, 02:49 PM

I'd start by looking at this

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...0_Plug_In.html

it's not the cheapest, but as an owner I can tell you this works great for your purpose. the receiver is one of the smallest/lightest available-important if you are flying your camera. it also has a headphone jack.

the transmitter powers all of the phantom mics I own, with the one exception of my neuman U87a-it's a power hog.

you'll have to add something like a shure fp-12 (bridging headphone amplifier) for the boom op to hear the mic. there is no transmitter i know of that has built it monitoring (Hello manufacturers-take note!!).

i doubt you'll find the sennheiser 500 series on ebay, not that i'd buy electronics on ebay anyway (all must be sold as is-no warranty). B&H is excellent-i use them frequently.

Wayne Brissette · January 29th, 2008, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve House

Perhaps you might consider something like the Sound Devices MM-1 mic preamp and headphone amp on the boom operator's belt providing phantom for the mic and monitoring for the operator, feeding into a plugon wireless transmitter plugged into the output.

I used this setup when I boomed an MTV pilot in November. I wasn't super crazy about the MM1. I thought it sounded fine, but in order to have IFB, you have to have the unit setup so your boom mic is in one ear of your headphones and the IFB in the other ear. I simply found this annoying, I found it very hard to get into that sweet spot with the mic 100% of the time. If you're not doing IFB, then it's great because you have a single input and can put that into both ears.

Wayne

Ty Ford · January 29th, 2008, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle Fasanella

Hey guys,

I am looking for a wireless setup to replace an XLR cable that goes from my Sony Z1U to mic w/ boom pole. I am steadicam operator and cannot have wires attached at all. This transmitter needs phantom power. It be perfect if it had and have a headphone jack. The boom operator needs to be able to monitor the sound and transmit to the Z1U. I am looking to spend as little as possible without losing too much. What specific equipment should I be looking at? What else should I be looking for in a wireless setup? What’s a good place to buy this equipment? EBay?

Zaxcom has it, and I think Lectrosonic

Regards,

Ty Ford

Kyle Fasanella · January 29th, 2008, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne Brissette

I used this setup when I boomed an MTV pilot in November. I wasn't super crazy about the MM1. I thought it sounded fine, but in order to have IFB, you have to have the unit setup so your boom mic is in one ear of your headphones and the IFB in the other ear. I simply found this annoying, I found it very hard to get into that sweet spot with the mic 100% of the time. If you're not doing IFB, then it's great because you have a single input and can put that into both ears.

Wayne

I am an audio noob. What is the advantage of shooting IFB?

Kyle Fasanella · January 29th, 2008, 08:25 PM

sennheiser 500 looks great. anywhere I can get this thing used?

Greg Bellotte · January 30th, 2008, 12:24 AM

Kyle,

IFB is a form of return audio to the boom op, interruptible so you can talk them into where to be. Usually only used in a broadcast environment, i've never seen it used in a single shooter scenario.

Good luck finding the Sen. 500's used. Most people buy into the 100 series because they are cheaper, but they lack the performance/features of the 500. With audio-you get what you pay for...

Wayne,

I know you prob don't get to choose your equipment on your MTV gigs, but try out the Shure FP-22 if you can. While the amp is a tad noisier than the MM-1 (it only affects the headphone out, the mic is a true pass-thru) the mix can be adjusted better-and mono'd to both ears if you like.

Wayne Brissette · January 30th, 2008, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Ty Ford

Zaxcom has it, and I think Lectrosonic

Actually as of right now, Zaxcom doesn't have it. At least not shipping. The TRX990 starts shipping at the end of next month. However, just yesterday I received one of the first units from them. I didn't dare try to use it on my gig yesterday evening since I haven't had time to do anything with it but look at the menus before I had to leave, but it's smaller than the MM-1 and it's both digital and stereo. I have no idea on the pricing yet. I'll write more abut the unit once I get time to play with it.

Wayne

Allen Green · January 31st, 2008, 01:03 PM

Kyle,
Sounds like you just need to hire or make a deal with a soundguy. He would have gear and make your life a lot easier.
Good luck

Ty Ford · January 31st, 2008, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne Brissette

Actually as of right now, Zaxcom doesn't have it. At least not shipping. The TRX990 starts shipping at the end of next month. However, just yesterday I received one of the first units from them. I didn't dare try to use it on my gig yesterday evening since I haven't had time to do anything with it but look at the menus before I had to leave, but it's smaller than the MM-1 and it's both digital and stereo. I have no idea on the pricing yet. I'll write more abut the unit once I get time to play with it.

Wayne

Hmm. I've had one here for about three months. It does not like my 416, although it powers it. RF issues.

Regards,

Ty Ford

Wayne Brissette · January 31st, 2008, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ty Ford

Hmm. I've had one here for about three months. It does not like my 416, although it powers it. RF issues.

Interesting... Colleen told me I had one of the first units out the door. I guess you must really have one of the first ones!

Wayne

Ty Ford · January 31st, 2008, 01:32 PM

I lied. The one I have is the Zaxcom 700 plugon.

It does have Phantom. My 416 does not like it.

Regards,

Ty

Wayne Brissette · January 31st, 2008, 01:43 PM

I forgot all about the TRX700... I suspect because I never wrote a manual for it. Which means, that's yet another document I have to put in my queue.

Wayne

Kyle Fasanella · February 14th, 2008, 12:49 PM

Ok I am going with either the
G2 Sennheiser Evolution 500
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...0_Plug_In.html

or
Sennheiser EW100ENGG2 Wireless System
http://www.coffeysound.com/product.p...1&cat=0&page=1

what is the difference in these systems?

January 29th, 2008, 02:13 PM	#1
Kyle Fasanella Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 66	Looking for help on buying wireless XLR setup with Phantom Power. Hey guys, I am looking for a wireless setup to replace an XLR cable that goes from my Sony Z1U to mic w/ boom pole. I am steadicam operator and cannot have wires attached at all. This transmitter needs phantom power. It be perfect if it had and have a headphone jack. The boom operator needs to be able to monitor the sound and transmit to the Z1U. I am looking to spend as little as possible without losing too much. What specific equipment should I be looking at? What else should I be looking for in a wireless setup? What’s a good place to buy this equipment? EBay?

January 29th, 2008, 02:40 PM	#2
Steve House Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,742	Perhaps you might consider something like the Sound Devices MM-1 mic preamp and headphone amp on the boom operator's belt providing phantom for the mic and monitoring for the operator, feeding into a plugon wireless transmitter plugged into the output. __________________ Good news, Cousins! This week's chocolate ration is 15 grams!

January 31st, 2008, 01:32 PM	#13
Ty Ford Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Posts: 2,337	I lied. The one I have is the Zaxcom 700 plugon. It does have Phantom. My 416 does not like it. Regards, Ty __________________ Ty Ford's Audio Bootcamp Field Guide Ty Ford's Audio Video Blog

January 31st, 2008, 01:43 PM	#14
Wayne Brissette Major Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 383	I forgot all about the TRX700... I suspect because I never wrote a manual for it. Which means, that's yet another document I have to put in my queue. Wayne __________________ Mics: KMR 82 i, NTG-1, MKH418S, MKH8040, SR77, QTC1, QTC40, SR30 Recorder: Zaxcom Deva 5.8 & MIX-12. Wireless: TRX900 stereo, Lectro 411

January 29th, 2008, 02:49 PM	#3
Greg Bellotte Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 291	I'd start by looking at this http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...0_Plug_In.html it's not the cheapest, but as an owner I can tell you this works great for your purpose. the receiver is one of the smallest/lightest available-important if you are flying your camera. it also has a headphone jack. the transmitter powers all of the phantom mics I own, with the one exception of my neuman U87a-it's a power hog. you'll have to add something like a shure fp-12 (bridging headphone amplifier) for the boom op to hear the mic. there is no transmitter i know of that has built it monitoring (Hello manufacturers-take note!!). i doubt you'll find the sennheiser 500 series on ebay, not that i'd buy electronics on ebay anyway (all must be sold as is-no warranty). B&H is excellent-i use them frequently.

January 29th, 2008, 08:25 PM	#7
Kyle Fasanella Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 66	sennheiser 500 looks great. anywhere I can get this thing used?

January 30th, 2008, 12:24 AM	#8
Greg Bellotte Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 291	Kyle, IFB is a form of return audio to the boom op, interruptible so you can talk them into where to be. Usually only used in a broadcast environment, i've never seen it used in a single shooter scenario. Good luck finding the Sen. 500's used. Most people buy into the 100 series because they are cheaper, but they lack the performance/features of the 500. With audio-you get what you pay for... Wayne, I know you prob don't get to choose your equipment on your MTV gigs, but try out the Shure FP-22 if you can. While the amp is a tad noisier than the MM-1 (it only affects the headphone out, the mic is a true pass-thru) the mix can be adjusted better-and mono'd to both ears if you like.

January 31st, 2008, 01:03 PM	#10
Allen Green Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 34	Kyle, Sounds like you just need to hire or make a deal with a soundguy. He would have gear and make your life a lot easier. Good luck

February 14th, 2008, 12:49 PM	#15
Kyle Fasanella Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 66	Ok I am going with either the G2 Sennheiser Evolution 500 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...0_Plug_In.html or Sennheiser EW100ENGG2 Wireless System http://www.coffeysound.com/product.p...1&cat=0&page=1 what is the difference in these systems?