Sennheiser HD 212Pro headphones any good for monitoring audio??? at DVinfo.net

Jose Milan · December 31st, 2007, 04:48 AM

Hello,

We recently got a Sennheiser HD 212Pro headphones and was wondering if there up for professional monitoring audio???, I mean in record time, not in post, connect them to the camera and monitoring the real sound from the camera.

Thanks

Jack Walker · December 31st, 2007, 05:32 AM

They have an extended base response as opposed to a flat response that is normal for monitoring headphones. That is to say, you won't hear the sound accurately, without any coloration, but you will hear more base than is actually there. Here they are at B&H with a description of this:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...al_Closed.html

Obviously you can use them for monitoring for major problems, but generally headphones with a flat response are better.

The Sony MDR-7506 is a standard headphone used for monitoring:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...Headphone.html

Here is another Sony that is cheaper but similar:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...osed_Back.html

Here is another Sony that sit on the ear instead of around it:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...Headphone.html

Basically professional monitoring headphones have a flat, uncolored response.
Other companies besides Sony also make them.

DJ headphones (like you have) and many consumer headphones usually have a tailored response to emphasize certain aspects of the sound, such as the bass. These headphones can sound great when listening to music, but they don't give a flat, uncolored understanding of the actual sound being recorded.

Wayne Brissette · December 31st, 2007, 05:46 AM

To follow up on Jack's post, if you want to see what a lot of the boom ops and sound mixers use, check out this survey that was done this past year at Trew Audio's site:

http://www.trewaudio.com/poll/?poll=6

As you see the Sony 7506 is used by 50% of the people who responded, with the Sennheiser HD25 (my favorite) coming in second with less than 25%.

Wayne

Harm Millaard · December 31st, 2007, 06:25 AM

I prefer the HD25-1, but that is a personal taste. Here is the link:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc..._25_1_II_.html

Jose Milan · December 31st, 2007, 06:57 AM

Hello everyone,

Thanks for the quick replies, I thought it was a good headsets and yeas they are good, but like you people said better for music. I've look at the ones you said so I hope we get them soon. For studio work I was using Sony MDR-V150 but sometimes it has "faked" the sound from the mic like hearing spikes that weren't really there, I thinks that some of the membrane inside the headsets vibrates more than normal sometimes, I dont know if is due to being old or really can't be used for monitoring accurately either.

Agian thanks.

Jose

Jon Fairhurst · December 31st, 2007, 03:03 PM

I own Senn HD 280 Pro cans, which also work well for live recording (closed, relatively flat response, reasonable impedance, foldable, replaceable parts.)

I find the HD 280s to be flatter than the Sony 7506s. The 7506s are a bit scooped and "pretty" sounding. However, for live recording, this isn't a bad thing. They "cut through" a bit better than the HD 280s so you have a better sense of what's coming through the cans and what is leaking through from the outside world.

For studio use I prefer the HD 280s. If live tracking is your main gig, I'd lean towards the 7506s.

Anna Harmon · January 2nd, 2008, 11:53 PM

Speaking of the SONYs, anyone know if they've changed over the years? I've had mine for about, oh my, maybe 14 years. I recently went to a shop and listened to the newer ones and they sound a little different. Or maybe it's just me.

Anyone have info?

December 31st, 2007, 04:48 AM	#1
Jose Milan Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Spain Posts: 185	Sennheiser HD 212Pro headphones any good for monitoring audio??? Hello, We recently got a Sennheiser HD 212Pro headphones and was wondering if there up for professional monitoring audio???, I mean in record time, not in post, connect them to the camera and monitoring the real sound from the camera. Thanks

December 31st, 2007, 05:46 AM	#3
Wayne Brissette Major Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 383	To follow up on Jack's post, if you want to see what a lot of the boom ops and sound mixers use, check out this survey that was done this past year at Trew Audio's site: http://www.trewaudio.com/poll/?poll=6 As you see the Sony 7506 is used by 50% of the people who responded, with the Sennheiser HD25 (my favorite) coming in second with less than 25%. Wayne __________________ Mics: KMR 82 i, NTG-1, MKH418S, MKH8040, SR77, QTC1, QTC40, SR30 Recorder: Zaxcom Deva 5.8 & MIX-12. Wireless: TRX900 stereo, Lectro 411

December 31st, 2007, 03:03 PM	#6
Jon Fairhurst Inner Circle Join Date: May 2006 Location: Camas, WA, USA Posts: 5,513	I own Senn HD 280 Pro cans, which also work well for live recording (closed, relatively flat response, reasonable impedance, foldable, replaceable parts.) I find the HD 280s to be flatter than the Sony 7506s. The 7506s are a bit scooped and "pretty" sounding. However, for live recording, this isn't a bad thing. They "cut through" a bit better than the HD 280s so you have a better sense of what's coming through the cans and what is leaking through from the outside world. For studio use I prefer the HD 280s. If live tracking is your main gig, I'd lean towards the 7506s. __________________ Jon Fairhurst

December 31st, 2007, 05:32 AM	#2
Jack Walker Trustee Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Burbank Posts: 1,811	They have an extended base response as opposed to a flat response that is normal for monitoring headphones. That is to say, you won't hear the sound accurately, without any coloration, but you will hear more base than is actually there. Here they are at B&H with a description of this: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...al_Closed.html Obviously you can use them for monitoring for major problems, but generally headphones with a flat response are better. The Sony MDR-7506 is a standard headphone used for monitoring: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...Headphone.html Here is another Sony that is cheaper but similar: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...osed_Back.html Here is another Sony that sit on the ear instead of around it: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...Headphone.html Basically professional monitoring headphones have a flat, uncolored response. Other companies besides Sony also make them. DJ headphones (like you have) and many consumer headphones usually have a tailored response to emphasize certain aspects of the sound, such as the bass. These headphones can sound great when listening to music, but they don't give a flat, uncolored understanding of the actual sound being recorded.

December 31st, 2007, 06:25 AM	#4
Harm Millaard Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands Posts: 1,832	I prefer the HD25-1, but that is a personal taste. Here is the link: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc..._25_1_II_.html

December 31st, 2007, 06:57 AM	#5
Jose Milan Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Spain Posts: 185	Hello everyone, Thanks for the quick replies, I thought it was a good headsets and yeas they are good, but like you people said better for music. I've look at the ones you said so I hope we get them soon. For studio work I was using Sony MDR-V150 but sometimes it has "faked" the sound from the mic like hearing spikes that weren't really there, I thinks that some of the membrane inside the headsets vibrates more than normal sometimes, I dont know if is due to being old or really can't be used for monitoring accurately either. Agian thanks. Jose

January 2nd, 2008, 11:53 PM	#7
Anna Harmon Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New York Posts: 127	Speaking of the SONYs, anyone know if they've changed over the years? I've had mine for about, oh my, maybe 14 years. I recently went to a shop and listened to the newer ones and they sound a little different. Or maybe it's just me. Anyone have info?