Manual audio settings with SGM-2x and VX2000? at DVinfo.net

Dan Measel · June 9th, 2003, 08:42 PM

I have a Sony VX2000 with SGM-2x mic and beachtek adaptor. From other threads I have figured out that it is best to keep the camera at about 50% and adjust only the beachtek. Doing this I have the Beachtek turned up all the way (to 10). I think this is correct. The audio indicator goes up to about 75%. And stays under the red mark. I think this is correct, right?

What I would like to know is how to record a scene where the voice level is normal throughout most of the scene and then the actor has to shout or raise their voice? At the settings I have there is going to be distortion during the louder volume scenes.

Matt Stahley · June 10th, 2003, 12:11 PM

I would lower the gain in the camera a bit and test the shouting a few times as to not get the distortion.Then in post on your NLE hopefully it will allow for you to add some compression/limiter to the dialog track.This will allow you to raise the lower volume passage and keep the shouting peaks down smoothing out the overall sound. I know FCP has compressor/limiter. I'm not sure about other NLEs. Another way would be to patch into a stand alone limiter before going into cam to prevent overloads. If you are not sure what a compressor/limiter does just listen to any radio DJ.They are heavily compressed and you will notice that if they whisper or yell at the top of thier lungs that the volume you are hearing them at stays at about the same level.

Dan Measel · June 10th, 2003, 07:22 PM

I have never heard of a compressor/limiter. That's interesting. Anyone know if Vegas Video has one?

Matt Stahley · June 10th, 2003, 08:35 PM

Dan
Another tip if Vegas doesnt have a compressor .Does vegas allow you to chop up the audio track? If so you can chop the track up into segments then boost or cut the volume where it is to low or high.
A compressor and a limiter are basically the same.They are pretty simple devices once you get to know how to use then correctly but if used poorly they will totally ruin the sound.Good compressor usage you would not even realize that it was added to the track.

Dan Measel · June 11th, 2003, 04:51 PM

Thats what I have been doing, but thought there may be a better method.

June 9th, 2003, 08:42 PM	#1
Dan Measel Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 196	Manual audio settings with SGM-2x and VX2000? I have a Sony VX2000 with SGM-2x mic and beachtek adaptor. From other threads I have figured out that it is best to keep the camera at about 50% and adjust only the beachtek. Doing this I have the Beachtek turned up all the way (to 10). I think this is correct. The audio indicator goes up to about 75%. And stays under the red mark. I think this is correct, right? What I would like to know is how to record a scene where the voice level is normal throughout most of the scene and then the actor has to shout or raise their voice? At the settings I have there is going to be distortion during the louder volume scenes.

June 10th, 2003, 12:11 PM	#2
Matt Stahley Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Waynesboro, PA Posts: 648	I would lower the gain in the camera a bit and test the shouting a few times as to not get the distortion.Then in post on your NLE hopefully it will allow for you to add some compression/limiter to the dialog track.This will allow you to raise the lower volume passage and keep the shouting peaks down smoothing out the overall sound. I know FCP has compressor/limiter. I'm not sure about other NLEs. Another way would be to patch into a stand alone limiter before going into cam to prevent overloads. If you are not sure what a compressor/limiter does just listen to any radio DJ.They are heavily compressed and you will notice that if they whisper or yell at the top of thier lungs that the volume you are hearing them at stays at about the same level.

June 10th, 2003, 07:22 PM	#3
Dan Measel Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 196	I have never heard of a compressor/limiter. That's interesting. Anyone know if Vegas Video has one?

June 10th, 2003, 08:35 PM	#4
Matt Stahley Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Waynesboro, PA Posts: 648	Dan Another tip if Vegas doesnt have a compressor .Does vegas allow you to chop up the audio track? If so you can chop the track up into segments then boost or cut the volume where it is to low or high. A compressor and a limiter are basically the same.They are pretty simple devices once you get to know how to use then correctly but if used poorly they will totally ruin the sound.Good compressor usage you would not even realize that it was added to the track.

June 11th, 2003, 04:51 PM	#5
Dan Measel Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 196	Thats what I have been doing, but thought there may be a better method.