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Old August 25th, 2007, 08:33 AM   #1
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Wireless Receivers and Mixer

I have DVC-30 and DVC-60, Evolution G2 100 with camera mountable receiver, body pack transmitter, plug on transmitter and ME2 lav, Rode NTG-2 mic.

I have ordered Audio Bootcamp, not here yet.

I am going to order 2 Senn G2 100 transmitter/receiver w/ ME2 lav and ENG-44.

From what I've read on the forum, this is not the best money can buy, but is a good starter system.

How do people mount all of the receivers onto the mixer? Maybe I'm a neatfreak, but is there a rack of some sort that neatly mounts the camera mountable receivers onto the mixer? Any photos showing such an arrangement would be appreciated.

Also, once the wireless receivers and the wired Rode are mounted to the mixer, can I use my plug in transmitter to output from the mixer to a receiver mounted on the camera?

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Old August 25th, 2007, 10:58 AM   #2
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...How do people mount all of the receivers onto the mixer?...
Usually everything will be contained in a field bag that can be slung over the shoulder for walking around, or, hung right in front for operation. Such a bag may have compartments for mixer, recorder, battery system, receivers, transmitters, cans and is designed to pass cables out the sides.

That's right, the mixer is operated in the bag. I'm partial to petrol bags, but portabrace and I think Kata also have audio bags.

E.g. click on "sound bags" here http://www.petrolbags.com/
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...Also, once the wireless receivers and the wired Rode are mounted to the mixer, can I use my plug in transmitter to output from the mixer to a receiver mounted on the camera?...
Yes but... a good sound operator will want to be tethered to the camera as often as possible, so that they can listen back to camera return audio (does the ENG44 offer this?). This is accomplished through use of a "breakaway" or "ENG" sound cable that has XLR sends for the signal, and a miniplug return for the camera headphone output.

Then, it's usually the sound op's responsibility to breakaway from the cam when moving, a mixer bag will have velcro or a hook to hang the cable... and another one for boom cable...

Also, check out the battery systems at remoteaudio.com.

(PS. if using a wireless link to the cam, I'd suggest that the cam op monitor sound on headphones, if the sound matters at all.)
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Old August 25th, 2007, 02:33 PM   #3
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Mixer/Recorder??

Any thoughts on the KORG D888 as a mixer and recorder instead of the ENG-44??
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Old August 25th, 2007, 04:17 PM   #4
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Doesn't look so good to me.

AC power only.

Doesn't have balanced outputs, meaning mixer stays close to the camcorder.

Records only at 16bit 44.1KHz sampling rate, making it a poor choice for matching to DV, which is 48KHz rate. All NLEs have trouble with this.

Aside from no battery power option, it really is more of a studio setup than a mobile setup. It needs space as well as AC, and weighs 10Lbs.

Then there is the question of how accurate the 44.1KHz clock is, you'd need to test if it will even keep time with your camcorders if you do decide to do sample rate conversions (not recommended).
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