Performance of Rode DeadCat vs. Rycote WindJammer. at DVinfo.net

Luke Stoneburner · August 23rd, 2007, 02:21 AM

Hi all!

So, I have a Rode NTG-1 that I'm going to be using a lot outside, boom-mounted and hand held, on location in Tokyo over the next year.

I am looking into getting it a fur coat to cut down on wind noise and (after searching the forums here) four options have risen to mind:

1 ) Make a furry windscreen (to slip over the foam that came with the microphone).
2 ) Buy a Rode DeadCat. (About $40.)
3 ) Buy a Rycote Mini WindJammer. (About $40.)
4 ) Buy a Rycote WindJammer. (At least $125.)

I'm wondering how each of these performs in terms of wind rejection and audio coloration.

I've read that the WindJammer can handle winds strong enough to cause tree branches to whip around. If that's so, I suppose the DeadCat and Mini WindJammer can handle breezes strong enough to move tree limbs about, but not enough to make them whip back and forth like just before a thunderstorm.

On that note, are the DeadCat and Mini WindJammer essentially substitutes for one another--competing in the same product class? What are their similarities and weaknesses?

As for the home-made option: what makes an ideal fur for reducing noise from wind?

I understand having air space between the fabric's backing and the microphone itself is key. Using the foam gag that comes with the mic is a suitable means to simulating the air of a zepplin, but at the cost of losing some high end. (Do I have this right?) The density of the fur and pore-size of the backing effecting sound colorization and overall attenuation--with larger pores equating to less colorization, right?

Length of the fur and density together determine the maximum velocity of wind against which the home-made fuzzy can protect, right?

So many questions, so little time.

--Luke

Mike Marriage · August 23rd, 2007, 04:56 AM

I have a Deadcat that is okay as long as it isn't very windy. I now use a Windjammer and have yet to hear any noise through it. For critical sound (interviews etc) I use a full rycote Zeplin. I also have a high wind sock which fits over the plastic case of the Zeplin but under the fur (don't know the name) but I've never needed to use it.

Get the best you can afford. A Deadcat alone isn't good enough in a strong breeze.

Luke Stoneburner · August 23rd, 2007, 11:08 AM

Hi Mike,

Thanks for your reply.

When you use the WindJammer, does it inevitably get used over the zepplin or is it used more often than not over the foam gag that came with your microphone (for non, sound-critical interviews)?

Your statement that you are yet to hear noise through one makes me very keen on getting a WindJammer, but I can't afford a zepplin. So, I'm wondering if the difference between a DeadCat/Mini WindJammer and a zepplin-less WinJammer is worth the extra expense.

Regards,

Luke

Luke Stoneburner · August 24th, 2007, 10:50 PM

Check out this:

http://www.rycote.com/products/winds...resNov2005.pdf

I finally found it on Rycote's website. It looks like a Softie is effectively an affordable alternative to a WindShield sans WindJammer--both the softie and WindShield with no fur are supposed to provide approximately the same wind-noise reduction.

Still, I wonder how a WindJammer plus the foam gag that comes with the Rode NTG-1 would perform.

--Luke

August 23rd, 2007, 02:21 AM	#1
Luke Stoneburner New Boot Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 23	Performance of Rode DeadCat vs. Rycote WindJammer. Hi all! So, I have a Rode NTG-1 that I'm going to be using a lot outside, boom-mounted and hand held, on location in Tokyo over the next year. I am looking into getting it a fur coat to cut down on wind noise and (after searching the forums here) four options have risen to mind: 1 ) Make a furry windscreen (to slip over the foam that came with the microphone). 2 ) Buy a Rode DeadCat. (About $40.) 3 ) Buy a Rycote Mini WindJammer. (About $40.) 4 ) Buy a Rycote WindJammer. (At least $125.) I'm wondering how each of these performs in terms of wind rejection and audio coloration. I've read that the WindJammer can handle winds strong enough to cause tree branches to whip around. If that's so, I suppose the DeadCat and Mini WindJammer can handle breezes strong enough to move tree limbs about, but not enough to make them whip back and forth like just before a thunderstorm. On that note, are the DeadCat and Mini WindJammer essentially substitutes for one another--competing in the same product class? What are their similarities and weaknesses? As for the home-made option: what makes an ideal fur for reducing noise from wind? I understand having air space between the fabric's backing and the microphone itself is key. Using the foam gag that comes with the mic is a suitable means to simulating the air of a zepplin, but at the cost of losing some high end. (Do I have this right?) The density of the fur and pore-size of the backing effecting sound colorization and overall attenuation--with larger pores equating to less colorization, right? Length of the fur and density together determine the maximum velocity of wind against which the home-made fuzzy can protect, right? So many questions, so little time. --Luke

August 23rd, 2007, 04:56 AM	#2
Mike Marriage Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NE of London, England Posts: 788	I have a Deadcat that is okay as long as it isn't very windy. I now use a Windjammer and have yet to hear any noise through it. For critical sound (interviews etc) I use a full rycote Zeplin. I also have a high wind sock which fits over the plastic case of the Zeplin but under the fur (don't know the name) but I've never needed to use it. Get the best you can afford. A Deadcat alone isn't good enough in a strong breeze.

August 23rd, 2007, 11:08 AM	#3
Luke Stoneburner New Boot Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 23	Hi Mike, Thanks for your reply. When you use the WindJammer, does it inevitably get used over the zepplin or is it used more often than not over the foam gag that came with your microphone (for non, sound-critical interviews)? Your statement that you are yet to hear noise through one makes me very keen on getting a WindJammer, but I can't afford a zepplin. So, I'm wondering if the difference between a DeadCat/Mini WindJammer and a zepplin-less WinJammer is worth the extra expense. Regards, Luke

August 24th, 2007, 10:50 PM	#4
Luke Stoneburner New Boot Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 23	Check out this: http://www.rycote.com/products/winds...resNov2005.pdf I finally found it on Rycote's website. It looks like a Softie is effectively an affordable alternative to a WindShield sans WindJammer--both the softie and WindShield with no fur are supposed to provide approximately the same wind-noise reduction. Still, I wonder how a WindJammer plus the foam gag that comes with the Rode NTG-1 would perform. --Luke