Best format to move between Vegas and Premiere? at DVinfo.net

Rafael Lopes · July 7th, 2007, 03:11 AM

Hi,

I've been doing a lot of slow motion tests on vegas that are coming up very good, but I've been using premiere for more thant 7 years and I really enjoy editing on it. So I was wondering what would be the best format/compression to export my slow motion sequence from vegas so that I can edit it on premiere.

Pete Bauer · July 7th, 2007, 06:22 AM

If you have the disk space, probably just go with uncompressed AVI.

Bill Ravens · July 7th, 2007, 07:36 AM

u can use a lossless format like picvideo. if u can stand unoticeable loss, i'd use an intermediate format like cineform.

Rafael Lopes · July 7th, 2007, 08:31 AM

Here are the export options I have:

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/8309/1183818247.jpg

P.S - Although I'm planning to buy cineform in the future, right now I have a list of crucial things that I absolutely need first

Greg Boston · July 7th, 2007, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete Bauer

If you have the disk space, probably just go with uncompressed AVI.

I did that very thing yesterday. Took an uncompressed HD out of Vegas in AVI format. The running time of the video is 18 minutes, the resulting file size was 263 Gigs. Oddly enough, it took the system over 2 hours to create that file. Kind of odd because uncompressed is the least computational intensive, at the expense of really large files. There were no cuts, and just a brightness/contrast filter on the clip.

Just wanted to warn others of the really huge files that uncompressed HD will generate.

-gb-

Rafael Lopes · July 7th, 2007, 02:44 PM

Yes, this afternoon I've exported 1 minute just see how big a file it would produce...almost 7gb...which unfortunately would result in a no go for me, since I have 3 200gb HD with lots of useful data that I just cannot move or delete at the moment. Other than uncompressed what would be the second best solution?

Rafael Lopes · July 7th, 2007, 03:00 PM

Once you select AVI here are the available video formats:

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/8309/1183841550.jpg

Rafael Lopes · July 8th, 2007, 12:51 AM

bump...............

Bill Ravens · July 8th, 2007, 06:13 AM

The other well known lossless compression format is HuffyUV. If this doesn't work, have you considered going to DV? Generational loss with DV is fairly small, and the only viable distribution, these days, is still DV.

Emre Safak · July 8th, 2007, 01:17 PM

There are a bunch of lossless codecs: http://www.compression-links.info/Lossless_Video_Codecs

I use the one by MSU.

Rafael Lopes · July 8th, 2007, 01:26 PM

Ok, I just downloaded Huffyuv, which I've been told would be the second best option...I exported a 1 minute file and ended up with a black video. I imported it to vegas and premiere and it makes them crash. I tried to play this file with different media players and it makes them crash. Am I missing something here? Is there a speciall way to export a Huffyuv AVI file?

Rafael Lopes · July 8th, 2007, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emre Safak

There are a bunch of lossless codecs: http://www.compression-links.info/Lossless_Video_Codecs

I use the one by MSU.

Thanks a bunch! Very useful. I'm testing MSU as we speak.

Graham Hickling · July 8th, 2007, 03:24 PM

Very suprised you had triuble with huffyuv - in my experience it's about the most bomb-proof avi codec out there. Whereas I've had problems with the MSU codec. Weird!

Rafael Lopes · July 8th, 2007, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham Hickling

Very suprised you had triuble with huffyuv - in my experience it's about the most bomb-proof avi codec out there. Whereas I've had problems with the MSU codec. Weird!

Yes, go figure. I have tried exporting from both vega and premiere and my final result is always a black video that makes every application crash. It's a shame because I've been hearing a lot of good stuff about this codec. I don't know, maybe my setting are not correct...but I don't think this would explain why does the video make applications crash.

July 7th, 2007, 03:11 AM	#1
Rafael Lopes Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 1,240	Best format to move between Vegas and Premiere? Hi, I've been doing a lot of slow motion tests on vegas that are coming up very good, but I've been using premiere for more thant 7 years and I really enjoy editing on it. So I was wondering what would be the best format/compression to export my slow motion sequence from vegas so that I can edit it on premiere.

July 7th, 2007, 06:22 AM	#2
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	If you have the disk space, probably just go with uncompressed AVI. __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

July 7th, 2007, 07:36 AM	#3
Bill Ravens Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: santa fe, nm Posts: 3,264 Images: 10	u can use a lossless format like picvideo. if u can stand unoticeable loss, i'd use an intermediate format like cineform.

July 7th, 2007, 08:31 AM	#4
Rafael Lopes Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 1,240	Here are the export options I have: http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/8309/1183818247.jpg P.S - Although I'm planning to buy cineform in the future, right now I have a list of crucial things that I absolutely need first

July 7th, 2007, 02:44 PM	#6
Rafael Lopes Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 1,240	Yes, this afternoon I've exported 1 minute just see how big a file it would produce...almost 7gb...which unfortunately would result in a no go for me, since I have 3 200gb HD with lots of useful data that I just cannot move or delete at the moment. Other than uncompressed what would be the second best solution?

July 7th, 2007, 03:00 PM	#7
Rafael Lopes Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 1,240	Once you select AVI here are the available video formats: http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/8309/1183841550.jpg

July 8th, 2007, 12:51 AM	#8
Rafael Lopes Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 1,240	bump...............

July 8th, 2007, 06:13 AM	#9
Bill Ravens Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: santa fe, nm Posts: 3,264 Images: 10	The other well known lossless compression format is HuffyUV. If this doesn't work, have you considered going to DV? Generational loss with DV is fairly small, and the only viable distribution, these days, is still DV.

July 8th, 2007, 01:17 PM	#10
Emre Safak Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brookline, MA Posts: 1,447	There are a bunch of lossless codecs: http://www.compression-links.info/Lossless_Video_Codecs I use the one by MSU.

July 8th, 2007, 01:26 PM	#11
Rafael Lopes Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 1,240	Ok, I just downloaded Huffyuv, which I've been told would be the second best option...I exported a 1 minute file and ended up with a black video. I imported it to vegas and premiere and it makes them crash. I tried to play this file with different media players and it makes them crash. Am I missing something here? Is there a speciall way to export a Huffyuv AVI file?

July 8th, 2007, 03:24 PM	#13
Graham Hickling Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 1,669	Very suprised you had triuble with huffyuv - in my experience it's about the most bomb-proof avi codec out there. Whereas I've had problems with the MSU codec. Weird!